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Old 04-12-2008, 03:45 PM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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I read something in the newspaper recently. Law enforcement officials stopped a man from boarding a plane to South America, after setting up a "sting" regarding child prostitution in a foreign country.

Here's the question. Should OUR citizens be required to follow U.S. law abroad, or the laws of that country? For another example...marijuana use is against FEDERAL law here in the U.S., but in Holland, it is not. So if a U.S. tourist uses marijuana abroad, is that a violation of law?
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Old 04-12-2008, 03:49 PM
 
Location: California
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No, it should not be the business of what American citizens do in foreign countries. Unless of course it's serious such as a violent crime.
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Old 04-12-2008, 03:51 PM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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No, it should not be the business of what American citizens do in foreign countries. Unless of course it's serious such as a violent crime.
Since child prostitution is acceptable in Thailand...then our government cannot stop people from taking "sex trips" to Thailand, right?

After all, every person should be responsible for themselves...
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Old 04-12-2008, 03:52 PM
 
Location: California
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Since child prostitution is acceptable in Thailand...then our government cannot stop people from taking "sex trips" to Thailand, right?

After all, every person should be responsible for themselves...
It's against the law.

This 1996 act adds a provision for the first time it seems that goes after the customer, but the only penalty is a maximum of 1000 Baht ($US25):
Section 5. Any person who, for the purpose of prostitution, solicits, induces, introduces herself or himself to, follows or importunes a person in a street, public place or any other place, which is committed openly and shamelessly or causes nuisance to the public, shall be liable to a fine not exceeding one thousand Bah


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Old 04-12-2008, 04:01 PM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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It's against the law.

This 1996 act adds a provision for the first time it seems that goes after the customer, but the only penalty is a maximum of 1000 Baht ($US25):
Section 5. Any person who, for the purpose of prostitution, solicits, induces, introduces herself or himself to, follows or importunes a person in a street, public place or any other place, which is committed openly and shamelessly or causes nuisance to the public, shall be liable to a fine not exceeding one thousand Bah


Legal issues regarding Thailand Prostitution




Someone should tell the Thais...since they seem to provide the services...

My point is, the U.S. citizen did not commit a crime against U.S. law if he was NOT in the U.S. at the time...so the FBI should not be allowed to set up a "sting" to enforce the laws of another country.
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Old 04-12-2008, 06:27 PM
 
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There is a difference between prostitution and "child" prostitution. In what country is it legal for "child" prostitution? Acceptable and not strictly enforced are very different than legal. Child prostitution is on the same level as child labor = forced labor. While in many countries the age of legal consent is 14, it is still illegal if the elder of the two is significantly older. Sort of like in the US we don't really prosecute teens for having sex with other teens but we do prosecute an adult for having sex with a minor. Now, what does this all have to do with immigration?
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Old 04-12-2008, 06:59 PM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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There is a difference between prostitution and "child" prostitution. In what country is it legal for "child" prostitution? Acceptable and not strictly enforced are very different than legal. Child prostitution is on the same level as child labor = forced labor. While in many countries the age of legal consent is 14, it is still illegal if the elder of the two is significantly older. Sort of like in the US we don't really prosecute teens for having sex with other teens but we do prosecute an adult for having sex with a minor. Now, what does this all have to do with immigration?
I am opposed to world travel. I consider ALL travel a sort of immigration...

Maybe it would be received better in the parent thread (Politics)...but it's more about law than about politics anyhow.

You didn't answer the question...why should the U.S. be enforcing FOREIGN laws?...or its laws when the subject is under the other country's jurisdiction?
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Old 04-12-2008, 07:01 PM
 
Location: Northglenn, Colorado
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I read something in the newspaper recently. Law enforcement officials stopped a man from boarding a plane to South America, after setting up a "sting" regarding child prostitution in a foreign country.

Here's the question. Should OUR citizens be required to follow U.S. law abroad, or the laws of that country? For another example...marijuana use is against FEDERAL law here in the U.S., but in Holland, it is not. So if a U.S. tourist uses marijuana abroad, is that a violation of law?
When in Rome, do as the Romans do.
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Old 04-12-2008, 07:06 PM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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When in Rome, do as the Romans do.
And if the Romans permit child prostitution...or even if they don't...isn't that a case for THEIR government? Their laws?

Our people stopped a man from going to a South American country because he had planned to engage in something that is a CRIME here. They set up the whole thing as a sting...

Can YOUR country punish you under ITS laws..for a crime committed outside its jurisdiction?

The man's lawyer said that since the man never did get on the plane, then he committed NO crime...not under that country's laws, not under OUR country's laws.
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Old 04-12-2008, 07:07 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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I am opposed to world travel.
You oppose World Travel? For what reason?

As one who has been privileged to travel - I can say that my experiences with other cultures - the people, the foods, the way of life is the most fantastic adventure one can have.

I'm sorry you are missing it
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