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From what I can see -- guns aren't what they need -- the people of Venezuela need tanks --
Which is why the founding fathers would be shocked at the restriction of weapons currently enforced upon US citizens.
The purpose of the 2nd Amendment was to put the citizens on par with the military. With only availability of semi-auto weapons, the citizens are put at a tremendous disadvantage compared to the military. Thus, in its current implementation, weapons laws are far too restrictive from thier intended purpose in the Constitution.
I also think that a large number of people have equated that responsible gun ownership is equivalent to "they're taking my guns". It's not. You have to have a license to operate a car, along with insurance. You have to give your identity to get a library book. Purchasing a firearm should at least have that level of requirement. Competency and knowledge.
" It's not. You have to have a license to operate a car, along with insurance. You have to give your identity to get a library book. Purchasing a firearm should at least have that level of requirement"
Did you fail Civics 101?
Driving is a PRIVILEGE granted by the STATE.
Owning arms is a RIGHT GUARANTEED under the 2nd amendment of the U.S. CONSTITUTION, "The RIGHT of the PEOPLE to KEEP and BEAR ARMS shall NOT be INFRINGED" .
I also think that a large number of people have equated that responsible gun ownership is equivalent to "they're taking my guns". It's not. You have to have a license to operate a car, along with insurance. You have to give your identity to get a library book. Purchasing a firearm should at least have that level of requirement. Competency and knowledge.
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Originally Posted by finalmove
OMG! Do you not understand even the basics of the Constitution? Please do some reading so you can avoid repeating such silliness again.
Well regulated means......well regulated, aka well functioning.
A well functioning militia would have :
- No criminals
- No children
- No habitual drunks / junkies
- No people physically incapable of handling a firearm
- No crazy people
- No people who have no idea how to handle a firearm (basic training)
Its common sense, which is why every militia and military makes sure the above are followed. It is also why the founders mentioned it.
Well regulated means......well regulated, aka well functioning.
A well functioning militia would have :
- No criminals
- No children
- No habitual drunks / junkies
- No people physically incapable of handling a firearm
- No crazy people
- No people who have no idea how to handle a firearm (basic training)
Its common sense, which is why every militia and military makes sure the above are followed. It is also why the founders mentioned it.
You're welcome to redefine/interpret it anyway you want, but its irrelevant.
Yep, and when we gave up our rights on full automatics, we existentially put a noose around our neck! Govt/ military/ law enforcement NOW have all the power, if it ever came down to it, the people would NOT be able to remove govt from power (that is truly frightening)!
Law enforcement claims they protect our rights as citizens, but Id bet anything, if it came down to it, they would protect govt ultimately, they are really the first line of defense.
We need to take back our rights to own full automatics with NO special license, or tax stamp, etc!!
"Yep, and when we gave up our rights on full automatics"
Full auto are still available. The gov't is NOT stopping you from buying one.
"Law enforcement claims they protect our rights as citizens, but Id bet anything, if it came down to it, they would protect govt ultimately, they are really the first line of defense.". I DISAGREE with your opinion.
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"Yep, and when we gave up our rights on full automatics"
Full auto are still available. The gov't is NOT stopping you from buying one.
"Law enforcement claims they protect our rights as citizens, but Id bet anything, if it came down to it, they would protect govt ultimately, they are really the first line of defense.'"i DISAGREE with your opinion.
No we just have to ask the psychopaths in govt for permission to own one.
Well regulated means......well regulated, aka well functioning.
A well functioning militia would have :
- No criminals
- No children
- No habitual drunks / junkies
- No people physically incapable of handling a firearm
- No crazy people
- No people who have no idea how to handle a firearm (basic training)
Its common sense, which is why every militia and military makes sure the above are followed. It is also why the founders mentioned it.
The problem is that many attempts to address things like that have been dishonest attempts to subvert the constitution.
For example, require licensing....but then restrict how they're given out to a trickle. Meanwhile the gang members still have their guns.
You and many others should fully recognize that these are not good faith efforts. They're often stolen from the old Jim Crow laws (hey look bullet taxes and egregious licensing fees!) or surely you've seen over the years attempts to end things like abortion by making the person wrestle a mountain of red tape until they can't get one. But it's not a ban! Wink Wink!
So, what you are describing as reasonable laws have been bait and switch attacks in the past and thus gun owners are uninterested in the latest ploy.
I ask if you've ever seen someone try to pass a law as an underhanded attempt to achieve a different goal?
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