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I know multiple former McCain Romney centrist GOPers like myself who voted straight dem tickets in the last election. Will do the same this time go around
I live in a Republican pocket in my state. It was a sea of Romney signage in 2012. There was record turnout.
There were no Trump signs in 2016. Lowest voter turnout in decades. Trump carried by a tiny margin.
If “ I did not vote” was a candidate in 2016, it would have won the popular vote.
What matters is who turns out to vote.
A reasonably strong third party ticket could change the dynamics in 2020 as it did in 1992.
Perot entered the race as an Independent in early 1992, just 9 months before the election. He initially polled very well. He dropped out claiming dirty politics by Bush Sr. Nonetheless, he qualified in all 50 states and reactivated his campaign. He received nearly 19% of the popular vote but no electoral college votes.
I know multiple former McCain Romney centrist GOPers like myself who voted straight dem tickets in the last election. Will do the same this time go around
Im in the former GOP camp. I rarely vote for Dems tho. Only one each in 16 and 18, I voted for Dem in the house race against a hard right GOP.
In all those political compass tests, I come out consistently very slightly right. Voted GOP in 88, 92, 00, and 08. Voted other in 96 because I felt Dole had been ramrodded thru as the nominee, 04 due to the war. In 12 and 16 because there were only incredibly terrible choices.
Throw out my support of universal health insurance and enforcing anti trust laws and I would be a bit further from the center as those are my most left positions. I am not for free college even though it would benefit me. I am against increasing the income tax rates.
Romney is an economic parasite involved in instances of bankrupting companies for his own benefit. AKA a bust out. If you create wealth to enrich yourself, God bless. When you destroy wealth to enrich yourself, not so much.
If you voted for McCain or Romney, you've already been voting straight Dem, so nothing changes.
Yup, I'll take the party that isn't full of white nationalists. Besides,, Bill Clinton was more fiscally conservative than trillion dollar annual deficit trump.
Enjoy your draft dodging, kkk loving putin puppet. Make Russia Great again
Thank you for providing primary evidence of why the GOP is losing members.
Not a far right winger = RINO and/or Dem and/or socialist even if they do not identify as such.
Not that the Dems are doing any better with their march to the left and McGovern v2.0 coming in 2020. Trump may take a couple more states.
I am not a Republican. I am an anarchist, and we don't have a party because we want the government to go away.
But Romney and McCain both subscribed to the Dem-lite version of Republican known more commonly as "Rockefeller Republicans" and they differ from non-crazy Dems very little. So imho, a vote for Romney means there wasn't a proper Democrat to vote for and he was close enough.
Then again, that is almost all Republicans at this point, since the entire party is sliding left, like always.
And if the GOP loses members or gains them, I couldn't care less even if I made an effort. Same for the Democrats. Two sides of the same vile, slimy, corrupt coin.
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Yup, I'll take the party that isn't full of white nationalists. Besides,, Bill Clinton was more fiscally conservative than trillion dollar annual deficit trump.
Enjoy your draft dodging, kkk loving putin puppet. Make Russia Great again
Lol.
Like there's a difference between Trump and any of the others. You folks are so funny with your Team Red-Team Blue delusions.
Yup, I'll take the party that isn't full of white nationalists. Besides,, Bill Clinton was more fiscally conservative than trillion dollar annual deficit trump.
Enjoy your draft dodging, kkk loving putin puppet. Make Russia Great again
Enjoy your party of America hating, illegal immigrant loving, tax and spend loving, borrowing-from-tomorrow-to-buy-votes-today left wing communist sympathizers.
Bush went "all-in" with a massive fear campaign, and it worked since 9/11 was still fresh in everyone minds. Also, Kerry was not a very inspiring candidate.
None of the Dem candidates stand out as an obvious nominee, which should have the Dems worried. The FL Gov candidate seemed like an energic guy. What happened to him? Not running?
The problem with the Dems are they want that SuperStar VIBRANT and youthful candidate. The one that can play a President on TV.
Basically the mold of JFK.
-Clinton fit it. Though he earned his into it more after 94, he was cool by playing the Sax on Arsenio. Something the dignity of a Presidential candidate would never do! But it sure caught on.
-Obama.. wow, was he ever a shiny new thing.
Look at the past democratic Presidents post WW2
-LBJ rode the Kennedy wave
-Carter was the anti-Nixon
The 'Real' Presidents that won 2 terms were Bill Clinton and Obama.
-Gore, Kerry, Dukakis fall into the wooden, uninspiring candidate category.
I think the role of the DNC Superdelegates (the Real Democrats) will be a much bigger focus this time around and ripe for criticism on who they choose. I mean, the Republicans don't have that which is how Trump got nominated.
So today, you have base looking for that Instagram worthy type person with the Democrats.
Given that the Senate elections (which better emulates the Electoral results) maintained even gained, with Trump being directly attributed to their success, while the Dems are still searching for their Star (Biden while seen as a heavyweight, I think won't generally inspire the way he needs to flip and turn voters out) generally bolds well for Trump in 2020.
I still think the IG report and investigations into the Russian investigation origin will benefit him beyond what is generally expected now. It will be a huge campaign talking point "They, didn't want me in power, they had to resort to that.. we have to show them they can't overturn the People's Will!" type stuff.
Romney is an economic parasite involved in instances of bankrupting companies for his own benefit. AKA a bust out. If you create wealth to enrich yourself, God bless. When you destroy wealth to enrich yourself, not so much.
I'm not an R but think you should reconsider why you were lead to believe this about Romeny. He was a clumsy canidadate at best and his Richie Rich, strong glass of milk persona did him no favors. But in truth Romeny probably saved more jobs than he cut. One of his specialties was to take a failing company, assess its assets and products, and then restructure. He often took loans against the company itself to finance the restructuring. He would spin off, sell , or focus on the parts of the company that were still viable and basically shutter the ones that were not going to survive. By cutting the bleeding from the poorly performing areas he saved any number of jobs that would have been lost when the entire company failed if the slow bleeding continued. He was also instrumental in building/organizing a couple of successful companies. Staples come to mind.
If not for social issues I would have been likely to vote for Romney.
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