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Okay let's say women have been raped cannot get abortions in some legal cases. Is it really that bad to just have the baby and give it up for adaption, if you don't want it? Or am I really bad for thinking that?
I gave birth after being raped. In many states the rapists have parental rights. I was forced to co-parent with my rapist and he ended up being awarded custody. My daughter was not at fault for the situation and did not deserve to be killed for it.
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Originally Posted by Ringo1
Were you 11 years old at the time? If not, your personal anecdote is not relevant in this case.
Wow that was really rude as well as total BS. That posters perspective is probably THE most relevant out of anyone’s perspective on this thread so far. That’s real life, right there. Compared to some hypothetical, propagandized opinion? Ha; Outranked.
Okay let's say women have been raped cannot get abortions in some legal cases. Is it really that bad to just have the baby and give it up for adaption, if you don't want it? Or am I really bad for thinking that?
Well, there are several issues with carrying an unwanted baby after a rape. One, the woman has already been violated, frequently violently. This has definite psychological effects, and some people (men are raped, too) find themselves self-medicating with alcohol and/or drugs. These are bad for a developing fetus.
Two, a person's body is their own. Forcing someone to carry to term is taking away bodily autonomy. You can't be forced to donate blood, or live for months hooked up to another person to keep them alive.
Three, pregnancy carries substantial physical risks. And, in this country, maternal mortality is going UP. Medical personnel are so focused on making sure the baby's okay, they seem to be missing signs of life-threatening complications in the mothers. Who'd want to risk that for a rapist's baby?
There are more, but those are the first things that come to mind for me. And, yes I was raped as a young teen, but he'd had a vasectomy, so no baby worry. That was bad enough; I can't imagine having to carry his child. It would have broken me. As it was, I seriously considered suicide.
Oh okay I see. My condolences are your terrible experience.
So if a woman could not get an abortion after being raped, is it best to just carry the baby and give birth, and just give it up then?
Many women would get an abortion any way they could, even if it was illegal. So, best? I couldn't say what would be best for another woman. It would be up to her what's best. She may consider that suicide would be preferable.
It's murder.I am not as strict as most GOP folks. I prefer quality over quantity,I believe in eugenics as well so if people want to murder their baby have at it most people having abortions aren't exactly people I want bringing babies into the world anyways. Mostly lefties and those that vote leftist.So quality over quantity.
So if the mother and the baby does during delivery, how do you justify that? Is that a win for you or just a way to upset the liberals? what happens if the 11 YEAR OLD kills herself?
Okay let's say women have been raped cannot get abortions in some legal cases. Is it really that bad to just have the baby and give it up for adaption, if you don't want it? Or am I really bad for thinking that?
What if it is your 11 year old daughter? Yes, you are really bad for thinking that.
If a child is raped, do you really want that child to life with a memory of that rape all her life?
Okay let's say women have been raped cannot get abortions in some legal cases. Is it really that bad to just have the baby and give it up for adoption, if you don't want it? Or am I really bad for thinking that?
It would be ideal if the mother can handle it. However, it may not be possible. In many states the rapist has parental rights. There have been cases where the rapist learns of the baby and goes for visitation/custody. When it comes to adoption, since the rapist has parental rights, the mother has to give notice of her intent and sometimes even get his consent. He can block the adoption and get awarded custody. The mother would then have to pay him child support. It has happened.
In my case, because I was receiving food stamps and medicaid for my daughter, the government finally started collecting child support from him. He didn't like that. He had gone for many years without paying. Well, he has government connections. And my family kept taking up for him. It never mattered what he did to me. I was a piece of garbage to them anyway. My family made up stories about me to CPS and got her taken from me. Then my rapist got custody and I didn't see her again until years later when her friends helped her escape and she ended up back out here. Initially, my family had wanted custody of her because they wanted the earned income credit and other financial advantages. They never really accepted her existence as a person and my father had even wanted her aborted, not because of how she was conceived, but because she was my child. Any child of mine had to be garbage too in their eyes. But they didn't mind trying to profit off her existence. That part failed and so they helped her bio-father get custody.
I kept getting told since she was born though that I needed to give her up so she could be raised in a black home where she belonged. She's bi-racial. I would have people come up to me in the store while I was shopping when she was a baby telling me that. It was very upsetting to me. I never wanted to give her up for adoption. I considered her to be mine and as far as I was concerned I was keeping her. The government did not allow me to do that though. I received constant harassment just for my having her from the time she was born. It interfered with my ability to be a full parent and was extremely stressful to me.
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