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View Poll Results: Should a 10 or 11 year old rape victim be forced to give birth?
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Old 05-12-2019, 01:25 AM
 
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No one is deciding her gender, are they? I thought the 11 year old was a girl, because the thread was discussing her getting an abortion. If it was a boy, then he probably wouldn't get an abortion, so therefore we would assume it was a girl, wouldn't we?
Nope! Maybe she's gender fluid...now she's a he...wait nope! Back again!
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Old 05-12-2019, 07:01 PM
 
Location: The New England part of Ohio
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Who are you to decide her gender?
Her GENDER is FEMALE. She is eleven, which makes her a minor female child - a GIRL.
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Old 05-12-2019, 07:03 PM
 
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Could she get an abortion in another state then or I guess not?
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Old 05-12-2019, 07:14 PM
 
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Her GENDER is FEMALE. She is eleven, which makes her a minor female child - a GIRL.



Maybe this will help:


sar·don·ic

/särˈdänik/

adjective
adjective: sardonic

grimly mocking or cynical.
"Starkey attempted a sardonic smile"
synonyms:mocking, satirical; More
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Old 05-13-2019, 06:12 AM
 
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Who are you to decide her gender?


Really?

That's what you took from my reply?

My reply had nothing to with gender.

The point of my reply was that it was particularly insulting to the subject of this thread for that poster (Ironpony) I was replying to appear to appear to attempt to mitigate the impact the impact of a lack of choice by linking the 'forced keeping' to women (adults) rather than an 11 year old girl.

Other people got my point, and repped me for the post.
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Old 05-13-2019, 06:17 AM
 
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Maybe this will help:


sar·don·ic

/särˈdänik/

adjective
adjective: sardonic

grimly mocking or cynical.
"Starkey attempted a sardonic smile"
synonyms:mocking, satirical; More
IMO, either you aren't very good at picking when being sardonic will be effective, or being sardonic wasn't your intent at all, and you are just attempting to combat responses you didn't anticipate .
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Old 05-13-2019, 06:27 AM
 
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IMO, either you aren't very good at picking when being sardonic will be effective, or being sardonic wasn't your intent at all, and you are just attempting to combat responses you didn't anticipate .
Or maybe it's because people who aren't very bright tend to miss sardonic and sarcastic humor...it goes right over their heads...just like all the libbies thinking Trump was really asking Russia to find the rest of Hitlery's emails...dumb people just don't get that kind of humor!
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Old 05-13-2019, 06:33 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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Or maybe it's because people who aren't very bright tend to miss sardonic and sarcastic humor...it goes right over their heads...just like all the libbies thinking Trump was really asking Russia to find the rest of Hitlery's emails...dumb people just don't get that kind of humor!
The only dumb ones are those who think sardonic, sarcastic or any other type of humor is appropriate when discussing the rape of a child.
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Old 05-13-2019, 07:21 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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So sad if this child is forced to carry this baby!

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"Any 10-year-old who is pregnant has already been abused significantly by somebody," he said. "That probably should go without saying."

Nor are 10-, 11- and 12-year-olds remotely prepared to care for a baby, Wall said. But the risks are physical, as well.

"The placenta preferentially will take nutrition from the mother, who really is a child," said Sherry Thomas, an ob/gyn at Mission Community Hospital in Panorama City, Calif. That means that the developing fetus will leach calcium and other nutrients from a child who should still be growing herself. Likewise, pregnancy puts a major strain on the cardiovascular system, according to Wall. Pregnant women have about 50 percent more blood circulating through their bodies compared with non-pregnant women.
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The greatest danger, however, is to the pelvic floor. Girls may start ovulating and menstruating as early as age 9, though the average is around 12 to 13. (Some studies suggest that the average age of first menstruation is dropping, but the data is not conclusive.) Just because a girl can get pregnant, though, doesn't mean she can safely deliver a baby. The pelvis does not fully widen until the late teens, meaning that young girls may not be able to push the baby through the birth canal.

The results are horrific, said Wall and Thomas, who have both worked in Africa treating women in the aftermath of such labors. Girls may labor for days; many die. Their babies often don't survive labor either.

The women and girls who do survive often develop fistulas, which are holes between the vaginal wall and the rectum or bladder. When the baby's head pushes down and gets stuck, it can cut portions of the mother's soft tissue between its skull and her pelvic bones. As a result, the tissue dies, and a hole forms. Feces and urine then leak through the hole and out of the vagina. Women with fistulas are often divorced and shunned. And young girls are at higher risk.
https://www.livescience.com/19584-10-year-birth.html
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Old 05-13-2019, 05:06 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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So sad if this child is forced to carry this baby!
If she is indeed made to carry the pregnancy a Cesarean is the likely outcome. No US obstetricians would allow an obstructed labor of the type that results in fistulas to continue, and ultrasound these days can give a pretty good estimate of the size of the baby.
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