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View Poll Results: Should a 10 or 11 year old rape victim be forced to give birth?
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No 18 100.00%
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Old 05-06-2019, 11:40 AM
 
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Originally Posted by newtovenice View Post
Consider this:

She loves babies. Always has. Wants to be a mom. Is forced to have an abortion. As she becomes a young women, she fully realizes what has transpired, becomes depressed and commits suicide in despair because of the guilt she feels for killing her own baby.

But that scenario would NEVER come into play in proabortion land, because abortion = good, right? Because after the abortion, she'll bounce right back! It'll be like nothing ever happened!! She's perfectly happy!! We saved her!!!!

Except .. you didn't.
Lol, laughable. One has to be sick to force an 11 year old to have a baby.
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Old 05-06-2019, 11:42 AM
 
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Consider this:

She loves babies. Always has. Wants to be a mom. Is forced to have an abortion. As she becomes a young women, she fully realizes what has transpired, becomes depressed and commits suicide in despair because of the guilt she feels for killing her own baby.

But that scenario would NEVER come into play in proabortion land, because abortion = good, right? Because after the abortion, she'll bounce right back! It'll be like nothing ever happened!! She's perfectly happy!! We saved her!!!!

Except .. you didn't.
There are many Islamic countries where your views are fully endorsed. They'd like you there.
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Old 05-06-2019, 11:42 AM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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There are two bodies and lives here. The only time it is morally right to terminate a life is when that life threatens another's life. Not their comfort, their LIFE! Pro-abortionists go on and on about agency over body, but what about the baby's agency over its body? If you're pro-choice, then why are you removing the baby''s choice?
So should you be required to use your organs to keep another person alive? Should every person be required to be bone marrow donors, organ donors,and blood donors? What makes their comfort more important than the life of another?

Just like how you are not required to use your body to keep me alive, a woman is not required to use her body to keep another alive.
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Old 05-06-2019, 11:42 AM
 
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The solution is simple to anti pro choice. If you make a female have a baby she didn't want, then a pro-lifer has to raise that baby. Not just anyone. A pro-lifer. Whether they want a baby or not, if they want to have control over a woman's body, then they will have to be responsible for raising the baby.
Don't have sex if you don't want a baby. In her case she had no choice but in most cases murdering a baby shouldn't be an option for irresponsible lazy people.
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Old 05-06-2019, 11:47 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Nope. I think the implication of the poster is that she should be made to have an abortion and that's it.
Because that is the "only option." And giving birth would ALWAYS be against her will.

That's the implication. I am not misreading it in any way.
So you would still want the girl to continue with the pregnancy if she wanted it even if doctors said it would be quite risky to her young not yet fully developed life?
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Old 05-06-2019, 11:49 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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People who claim abortion is the best solution never factor in that it does not erase the rape. They somehow believe that the abortion will counteract it and erase it from memory.

They don't view babies as anything more than collateral damage and disposable.

Ever consider that having the baby would be a POSITIVE outcome?

No. Of course not. Because that is the 'unthinkable' solution.
So you quite strongly support any laws requiring all women to give birth who got pregnant from the result of rape?
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Old 05-06-2019, 11:52 AM
 
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I guess Massillon, Ohio isn't a sanctuary city.

Juan Leon-Gomez wouldn't be raping 11-year-olds in the US if we were actually preventing illegals from coming here in the first place.
There's no doubt he came here illegally. However, he might have done this had he come here legally. If he's some rapist, having to go through the legal processes wouldn't have stopped him.
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Old 05-06-2019, 11:55 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Originally Posted by newtovenice View Post
Consider this:

She loves babies. Always has. Wants to be a mom. Is forced to have an abortion. As she becomes a young women, she fully realizes what has transpired, becomes depressed and commits suicide in despair because of the guilt she feels for killing her own baby.

But that scenario would NEVER come into play in proabortion land, because abortion = good, right? Because after the abortion, she'll bounce right back! It'll be like nothing ever happened!! She's perfectly happy!! We saved her!!!!

Except .. you didn't.
I value much more a doctor's opinion over how a 11 year old should deal with a pregnancy over yours any day.
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Old 05-06-2019, 11:58 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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There are two bodies and lives here. The only time it is morally right to terminate a life is when that life threatens another's life. Not their comfort, their LIFE! Pro-abortionists go on and on about agency over body, but what about the baby's agency over its body? If you're pro-choice, then why are you removing the baby''s choice?
In other words, what you're trying to say is that the unborn baby's life is always much more important to society than the mother's. If all abortion is banned, and if both the mother and baby end up dying, then, no doubt, it had to be due to God's will. RIGHT?
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Old 05-06-2019, 11:59 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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During puberty, the menstrual cycle is highly irregular. Someone this young wouldn't know they are pregnant until it was too late to get a legal and safe abortion. Rape victims often don't report, 3 out of 4 sexual assaults are not reported.

The law goes into effect in July.

Ohio man raped 11-year-old who is now pregnant

Ohio Governor signs one of the nations strictest abortion bans
Perfect adoption material.
Humane Society.
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