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Old 05-06-2019, 07:54 PM
 
Location: interior Alaska
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Tons of pieces of classical art have been painted over in deference to Christian sensibilities? Do you care to give some examples? It's true that some of the nudity in Michelangelo's "The Last Judgement" in the Sistine Chapel were painted over at the request of one prudish cleric. But that is the only example I can think of. Western painting from the time of the Renaissance on down has contained quite a bit of nudity. There has been no large scale Christian movement to cover it up.
There was literally a large scale movement to cover it up, called the "Fig Leaf Campaign." But it's occurred on a smaller scale on and off since the Renaissance, depending on the mores of the times and places, and the individual views of the people who came to possess various pieces of art.

I'm not up for an art history lesson today, but there are hundreds if not thousands of examples of nudity being covered in art out of deference to Christian mores of the time. If you're interested, here are a few articles to get you started. Of course, they focus on only a handful of the most famous examples, but if you start to dig into it you'll find plenty more.
https://www.theguardian.com/artandde...rdo-censorship
https://www.artsy.net/article/artsy-...atholic-church
The Prude Nude: Censorship and Cover-Ups in Art | Alberti
The Censorship of Nudity in Western Visual Art - The Blackbird Review

Of course, when not content to censor art, it could also just be destroyed wholesale:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beeldenstorm
https://www.theguardian.com/artandde...william-museum
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This recycling, discovered by the Fitzwilliam Museum’s Hamilton Kerr Institute, is also likely to have saved the panel from Puritan iconoclasts in the English civil war, who destroyed a lot of art that had survived the earlier purge. [...] Estimates say up to 97% of English religious art was destroyed during and after the Reformation.
Then there's the modern day incarnation of the fig leaf, which is the pixelation blur. We simply accept this as normal broadcast standards, which makes me wonder why it's so outrageous for an art gallery to put up a curtain, but quite ordinary for CBS to fuzz out a Modigliani. While this isn't specifically denominational, I think one'd be hard pressed to argue that these broadcast standards aren't primarily a product of US religious and cultural sensibilities, which are predominantly Christian.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=YkJS0IzZREk

I'm certainly not saying the people protesting SKU's work are right or justified. What I am saying is, you know, glass houses. Maybe the outrage should be against censorship in general rather than about Islam in particular.

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Old 05-07-2019, 04:28 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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tell the damned muslims to g to he!! if they dont like art work. there have been art works that insulted the christians and jews, and on one wanted them taken down.
Want to rethink this response? From the same source as the OP, here's a woman arrested for paintings she had in her own home. She faces jail time.


Woman arrested in Poland over posters of Virgin Mary with rainbow halo
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Old 05-07-2019, 05:00 AM
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Location: Great Britain
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Coward ****bags.

But they would be happy to display a cross smeared in feces or a painting of the virgin Mary being gangbanged. They would lecture us that good art is supposed to offend, and put the hand out for government grant (yeah, I get that it is London, but same thing here and there).

I hope no one ever, anywhere, ever goes to this gallery again.
You couldn't pay me to visit the Saatchi Gallery, whilst in terms of a lot of modern art I very much agree with the sentiments of youtuber Paul Joseph Watson.




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Old 05-07-2019, 05:16 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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How would that look? Would the people who are concerned about this supposed to dig out their forum posts (wherever they were posted) from 15+ years ago?

#WhataboutingFail

They would look like the hypocrites they are because there's nothing to dig up.
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Old 05-07-2019, 05:21 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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No, I don't have a link because it happened many years ago. But thanks for calling me a liar.

P.S. snopes is run by a couple of leftists.


Which does nothing to refute what they say.


If you really want to start claiming truthful or not by political leaning, let's look at the thousands of lies Trump has told in 2 years and say anything rightists say is false until proven otherwise.
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Old 05-07-2019, 05:25 AM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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Yet **** (urine) Christ gets all the world in arms protecting it.

Irony
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Old 05-07-2019, 05:53 AM
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Location: Great Britain
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Yet **** (urine) Christ gets all the world in arms protecting it.

Irony
The Saatchi has already hosted a Andres Serrano Exhibition.

Andres Serrano - Saatchi Gallery

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