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Old 05-08-2019, 09:11 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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well, if anybody deserved a pardon, it should be the soldiers who were sent over there to fight this ridiculous war last forever.
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Old 05-08-2019, 09:55 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Actually it is !!!

His translator was a witness who gave an account of self-defense.
He was convicted in court, period.
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Old 05-08-2019, 09:57 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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You need to stop quoting me because you are not going to convince me. I really don't know what you are trying to do here, say your last words or something? sheesh
You are making a case that this wasn't murder, this is not a grey area.
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Old 05-08-2019, 10:07 AM
 
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He disobeyed orders.


Trump is setting a really good precedent here. It's no longer necessary to obey orders in the military as long as Trump agrees with you.
OH PLZZZZZ how many of you people supported Bergdahl's release and sang his praises!
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Old 05-08-2019, 10:08 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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You are making a case that this wasn't murder, this is not a grey area.
You are making a case that he was a cold blooded murderer, and this IS a gray area.

Very classy of you, like always. STILL trying to make excuses for Bergdahl, but condemn me for giving this soldier a pass.

Let's just stop pretending we are on some kind of moral high horse, shall we ? sheesh
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Old 05-08-2019, 10:12 AM
 
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You are making a case that he was a cold blooded murderer, and this IS a gray area.

Very classy of you, like always. STILL trying to make excuses for Bergdahl, but condemn me for giving this soldier a pass.
This would be a better argument if he wasn’t already convicted in a court of law for being a cold-blooded murderer.
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Old 05-08-2019, 10:13 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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This would be a better argument if he wasn’t already convicted in a court of law for being a cold-blooded murderer.
well, murder, that is it.

Cold blooded, grey area.

If he could prove the dead dude was linked to al Quida, he could have been a hero.

See how that works?

For your information, U.S. forces took Mansur into custody in 2008 shortly after a roadside bomb struck a convoy traveling north of Baghdad, killing two of Behenna’s friends and platoon members.

Like I posted many pages ago, the soldier could not prove he was a bomb maker, just like nobody could prove he was a cold blooded murder who killed innocent civilians just for the sake of it.

When I judge a soldier, I tend to look at his behavior pattern. How many years has he served? Did he have a criminal record prior to his military service? Is this a one time behavior, or he has the reputation of being trigger happy? ALL factors in before I make my own conclusion.
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Old 05-08-2019, 10:16 AM
 
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well, murder, that is it.

Cold blooded, grey area.

If he could prove the dead dude was linked to al Quida, he could have been a hero.

See how that works?

For your information, U.S. forces took Mansur into custody in 2008 shortly after a roadside bomb struck a convoy traveling north of Baghdad, killing two of Behenna’s friends and platoon members.
Murdering a prisoner who is an enemy combatant makes one a “hero”? That’s some interesting take on the Geneva Convention.
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Old 05-08-2019, 10:23 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Murdering a prisoner who is an enemy combatant makes one a “hero”? That’s some interesting take on the Geneva Convention.
Well, you got me there.

Which is why I said "if he could prove.....", he could be a hero In battle field, there is a fine line between a hero and a villain . This is not a secret. A wise man used to tell me, both heroes and villains are fictional characters, depend on who is making the judgment call.

But to me personally, he is a hero. There you go, end of the discussion between you and I.
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Old 05-08-2019, 10:25 AM
 
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Well, you got me there.

Which is why I said "if he could prove.....", he could be a hero In battle field, there is a fine line between a hero and a villain . This is not a secret.

But to me personally, he is a hero. There you go, end of the discussion between you and I.
Killing an enemy combatant on the battlefield might make you a hero, but executing one in captivity certainly does not. Therein lies the difference.
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