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Old 05-09-2019, 11:05 AM
 
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If I remember right the Bundy Y'All Queda revolution ended with a couple losers crying around a campfire when they ran out of weed and decided to surrender to LEO.
But not before a number of them were arrested and one managed to get himself offed trying to run a police blockade. Yeah, these guys are not the sharpest tools in the shed. They are more likely to stumble while walking and shoot their fellow goofballs by mistake than they will ever be a serious threat to the country. Delusions of grandeur by imbeciles.
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Old 05-09-2019, 11:06 AM
 
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The Three Percenters



Do you think they have a shot?


I thought that was the job of the military and police force.


3%? Both my wife and I have ancestors who fought in the revolution. We have records of their enlistment and it is weird. They served for a period of time, returned to their farms for planting or harvesting, then returned to military ranks.
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Old 05-09-2019, 11:48 AM
 
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I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss it.

A super interesting scenario may happen at some point in the future if say a group of states (for argument sake I'll just say ID, WY, UT, MT, ND,SD, NE) since they are all very red states, decide to secede in the future and form an alliance or unified government like "the western states of America"

Their governor's would in theory command the states air and army national guards as well and enjoy significant support from the locals. They may even try to seize federal us military property. Who knows. It would get complicated very fast.

In any future civil war I can see the military fracturing where each side gets support from the federal military. State level units would be more likely to support their home states. It would be far more complicated than civil war 1


It's foolish to just simply laugh it off and say it can't happen.

See what happens in 2020 or 2024 if the Dems win all both houses and the president, rewrite the code for supreme Court Seats and stuff it with 7 more far left activist judges and move against gun rights, allow illegals to vote, disband the electoral college, control free speech and crazy socialist policies. Then see what happens. Cw1 happened because an entire part of the country was cut out of the civil and political process and felt their only avenue of redress was a military option. In the above scenario it would be a similar plotline again. It's happened once already it can certainly happen again. It's wise to learn history, as much as things change human nature remains the same and history repeats itself.
The Civil War did not happen because the South was cut out of the political process. It was about slavery. The South lost in the political process so they tried a military option, and got their a** kicked.

If, as you say, history repeats itself, then you're going to get whacked again, because you did not learn the first time. Would it really be a good idea to kill thousands of Americans because you can't abide at most 8 years of Democratic rule? Do you know how childish that sounds? We did not get our way, so lets go kill some liberals? You think that potentially 8 or more years with the Dunce as president is a picnic for the rest of us? Even if he loses, the Dunce has said that he may not accept the election results. So dear leader may need to be escorted out by US Marshalls.

This is exactly what the Russians want, a weakened United States, fighting internal strife, and you call yourselves "patriots"?
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Old 05-09-2019, 11:55 AM
 
Location: Florida
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The ironic thing these losers never seem to think about, a guaranteed way to get your guns taken away is to threaten to use them against judges, LEO and other citizens.
This is true. A self-fulfilling prophecy of sorts. If you want to keep your guns, threatening to use them to start a war against the rest of the citizens and all of the government isn't really the best way to go about it. In every test of mental fitness, that sort of behavior would fail and one could, in fact, lose their guns when they were in no danger of that before starting their lunatic ravings.
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Old 05-09-2019, 11:57 AM
 
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The Civil War did not happen because the South was cut out of the political process. It was about slavery. The South lost in the political process so they tried a military option, and got their a** kicked.

If, as you say, history repeats itself, then you're going to get whacked again, because you did not learn the first time. Would it really be a good idea to kill thousands of Americans because you can't abide at most 8 years of Democratic rule? Do you know how childish that sounds? We did not get our way, so lets go kill some liberals? You think that potentially 8 or more years with the Dunce as president is a picnic for the rest of us? Even if he loses, the Dunce has said that he may not accept the election results. So dear leader may need to be escorted out by US Marshalls.

This is exactly what the Russians want, a weakened United States, fighting internal strife, and you call yourselves "patriots"?
The South was shown by the election of Lincoln that they were irrelevant to the political process. It's not like Lincoln won any votes in the South, since he wasn't on a single ballot in a Southern state.
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Old 05-09-2019, 11:58 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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The Three Percenters



Do you think they have a shot?



We are more than 3%.
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Old 05-09-2019, 12:05 PM
 
Location: in my imagination
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Yes they do. The second amendment is a “line in the sand” for many of us conservatives. The reason we see so many of these threads, references to civil war and even news stories about the prospects of civil war or secession is because too many of our rights have already been violated. There is already a mentality of defiance and rebellion forming among conservatives. We have had it.....socialism, deviant gay marriage, attempts to curtail our freedom of speech and gun rights.....all this stuff is building to something. If the enemy takes over the government and actually tries to take guns or go further in taking our rights then yes something will happen. When it does the “silent majority “ will step out into the light and stand. Leftists will find to their horror that those people will be a lot of military, ex military, law enforcement and well armed rural Americans. When it happens we will quickly retake the country and force the leftist urban centers on the coasts and up North to submit. Conservative leaders will then restore our rights and reorganize this nation as they see fit. The days of wealth redistribution, gun grabbing and political correctness will be over. The liberals will then have learned the hard way how much we love our freedom and how much we detest their traitorous ways.
You don't have my support. I say that as someone who speaks out often for pro 2nd amendment issues and criticize left liberals often. Your comment on gay marriage I also do not agree with, non of your business who marries who or are you selective on when you feel it is alright for government to intrude into the lives of others as far as who loves and marries who?


We have free elections, we have courts to appeal laws, until that breaks down the 2nd amendment as far as resisting tyranny sits it out.
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Old 05-09-2019, 12:22 PM
 
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The South was shown by the election of Lincoln that they were irrelevant to the political process. It's not like Lincoln won any votes in the South, since he wasn't on a single ballot in a Southern state.
See you just don't get it. The South participated, to the extent they wanted to, in a democratic/federalist political process. In a democracy/federalist state there are winners and losers. In this case the South lost, twice. Participating in the process or not is what freedom is all about. The South made it's choice and took it's chances. They were not any more irrelevant than any other participant or non-participant. Non-participants can, by their absence, change the outcome of an election.

Even if he was not on the ballot doesn't mean he didn't get any write in votes. It's a part of that political process we are talking about.
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Old 05-09-2019, 12:24 PM
 
Location: Florida
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We are more than 3%.
Do you really think that? You think that more than 3 out of every hundred people in the United States wants to declare war against the United States if they don't get their way and Democrats get elected in? Think about this seriously. There are 370 million people in the United States. Three percent of that is 11,000,000 people. That's the population of NYC and Chicago added together. Do you REALLY think that is possible?
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Old 05-09-2019, 12:32 PM
 
Location: Ft Myers, FL
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Well, three percent of American adults already own half the guns, sooooo ...
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