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Old 05-12-2019, 07:17 AM
 
Location: Texas
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I don't disagree but that isn't the point. People are OK with a big government that intervene's as long as it's something they support.

Just the same as loving socialism when they are the ones benefiting.
Agreed. Many republicans are that way. But Shapiro is very small government, unless it comes to defending Israel.
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Old 05-12-2019, 07:21 AM
 
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Agreed. Many republicans are that way. But Shapiro is very small government, unless it comes to defending Israel.
I don't think the way to convince people that you are right is by being a condescending prick.
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Old 05-12-2019, 07:22 AM
 
Location: Austin
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shapiro had a very rare bad day with the BBC interview. <shrug> He is human, although he appears to be a computer sometimes. Shapiro admitted he was terrible in the interview. A rare admission for any pundit.

Interesting that the one time shapiro very publicly messes up we get a 12 page thread about it on C-D. I'm surprised so many follow him....or was his flub celebrated in a talking points memo article??
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Old 05-12-2019, 07:23 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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Well Andrew Neil certainly seemed good enough for The Daily Wire.
You know,the website founded by Ben Shapiro.
The Ben Shapiro who says he's never heard of Andrew Neil.
Here's The Daily Wire praising Andrew Neil's journalistic skill back in February.

http://www.dailywire.com/news/43183/...-us-ashe-schow

The man is an out and out liar.
Ouch.
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Old 05-12-2019, 07:25 AM
 
Location: Texas
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I don't think the way to convince people that you are right is by being a condescending prick.
When people call him racist, try and shout him down, and stop him from going on campus then they deserve whatever grief he gives them.
Although I disagree with him on foreign policy, he's honest and consistent. He criticizes both sides. THAT is what makes him a man.
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Old 05-12-2019, 07:36 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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A huge burn right here. Neil gave his reasons for asking Shapiro tough questions
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/be...cid=spartanntp


Isn't Neil supposed to be doing what any reporter worth their salt is supposed to do? Grill people in politics or fields closely related to politics so as to expose the public to other perspectives - so the public is properly informed to make up their own mind? Shapiro is either totally clueless about how real media is supposed to operate or he simply can't take the heat.
Andrew Neil's interview style is what is called playing the "Devil's advocate", it's actually an act or a gimmick. When you play the Devil's advocate, you are supposed to inform the subject of this so that the subject knows where you are coming from. I guess Shapiro should have known this about him and he didn't.
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Old 05-12-2019, 07:41 AM
 
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When people call him racist, try and shout him down, and stop him from going on campus then they deserve whatever grief he gives them.
I don't believe that "racist" is a proper rebuttal either.

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Although I disagree with him on foreign policy, he's honest and consistent. He criticizes both sides. THAT is what makes him a man.
I have far, far more respect for Ann Coulter. She takes on prepared practiced adults and doesn't melt down like Shapiro did.
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Old 05-12-2019, 07:43 AM
 
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Andrew Neil's interview style is what is called playing the "Devil's advocate", it's actually an act or a gimmick. When you play the Devil's advocate, you are supposed to inform the subject of this so that the subject knows where you are coming from. I guess Shapiro should have known this about him and he didn't.
LOL, what a weak excuse. If you are worth a darn, you don't have to script the interview before it happens.
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Old 05-12-2019, 08:02 AM
 
Location: Somewhere out there.
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Well I guess Shapiro fully admitted he was owned by Andrew Neil, you have to give him credit for that. Shapiro's mistake was a cultural one. Andrew Neil's approach is fairly standard in British television news, which typically can take the opposite stance to the person being interviewed as a technique for drawing a response.
Although it's interesting to think that if Shapiro had known that Neil is Conservative, that he may have had a different reaction to the same questions. His response was shaped in part by assuming that Neil was left wing.
I'd love to see him interviewed by Jeremy Paxman, an even more hard nosed Conservative interviewer.
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Old 05-12-2019, 08:04 AM
 
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Well I guess Shapiro fully admitted he was owned by Andrew Neil, you have to give him credit for that. Shapiro's mistake was a cultural one. Andrew Neil's approach is fairly standard in British television news, which typically can take the opposite stance to the person being interviewed as a technique for drawing a response.
Although it's interesting to think that if Shapiro had known that Neil is Conservative, that he may have had a different reaction to the same questions. His response was shaped in part by assuming that Neil was left wing.
IMO he knew who he is. He simply took the weak argument.
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