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Old 05-17-2019, 12:01 PM
 
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So what has the GOP proposed to address the homeless problem?

Bus them from city to city?
We have a very high-end town not too far from us that does exactly that. We're not exactly a poor area either but a little less Nazi about dealing with the homeless, so guess the destination for a lot of those bus tickets out. For all too many additional nitwits, another brilliant answer is a bus ticket to somewhere else.
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Old 05-17-2019, 12:14 PM
 
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Brilliant analogy and observation but what part of your deep insight helps solve the problem of people sleeping on the streets, in doorways, under freeways and/or the needles and crap on the sidewalks?
Because all these clowns think it’s possibe to rehabilitate these addicts and make them functional again.

It’s a lost cause.

They need to be isolated/contained until they eventually die.

Yes it sounds heartless, but should 95% of the population suffer while we fight in vain to save the 5% who cannot be fixed???
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Old 05-17-2019, 12:18 PM
 
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We have a very high-end town not too far from us that does exactly that. We're not exactly a poor area either but a little less Nazi about dealing with the homeless, so guess the destination for a lot of those bus tickets out. For all too many additional nitwits, another brilliant answer is a bus ticket to somewhere else.
So your community doesn’t hold homeless responsible for breaking laws and now it’s a problem that homeless are being shipped to your area??

Your leaders obviously ok with them, what’s the problem?

Cities that maintain law and order do not deserve to deal with people enabled by outsiders.
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Old 05-17-2019, 12:19 PM
 
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You don't even know who put the ad on the bus stop but you are telling me it was done by "my people" ...hmm
Haha yea all those conservative pro-homeless organizations are so prolific

Especially in California
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Old 05-17-2019, 02:02 PM
 
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Pray tell, how does a city "get people out of such a lifestyle"? Do they pray for them, or do they pull out their secret manual on how to fix broken people? Homeless people are quite varied, a fair number of them simply are sober and actually have jobs and the only 'fixing' they need is an affordable place to live. Others are mentally ill or have substance abuse issues but you can't force people into treatment. When people voluntarily enter rehab up to 60% relapse, so how many do you think get sober when treatment is forced on them? Others are old, disabled, or unemployable for various reasons. Your attempt to put them all in one bucket is naive and short sighted.
Let’s be honest. That’s not true. Those people exist, but they live in their car or on someone’s couch until they can get back on their feet or housing becomes available. They’re not out there causing problems. The ones causing problems are drug addicts or people who are mentally ill and drug addicts. It’s a DRUG problem, not a housing problem.
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Old 05-17-2019, 02:17 PM
 
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Republican states/cities/towns don't have homeless and people openly doing drugs? Wrong.

People are still being arrested for drug offenses, sometimes, but "street" people seem to be able to do what they want where and when they want.

I see people shooting up on Main Street USA, do I ignore it? Report it, will police respond, will they arrest them? What if they are snorting something, or smoking something... What if they are urinating (indecent exposure). From what I understand, people just WALK BY and IGNORE it. Don't wear shoes in their houses because they probably walked through human excrement at some point. This is our adaptation. What the heck have we become.
Of course they do, but the problem stems from them left, bleeding heart mentality. Nothing can be shamed or regarded as inappropriate for the left, and even tough-love is not accepted anymore. This sort of crap needs to be dealt with a firm hand. If they will not stop using drugs and defacating on the streets, they need to be pushed out of the city where they will not spread disease. For those who want help we extend a hand. Many do not or are not willing to put in the work.
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Old 05-17-2019, 02:22 PM
 
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Of course they do, but the problem stems from them left, bleeding heart mentality. Nothing can be shamed or regarded as inappropriate for the left, and even tough-love is not accepted anymore. This sort of crap needs to be dealt with a firm hand. If they will not stop using drugs and defacating on the streets, they need to be pushed out of the city where they will not spread disease. For those who want help we extend a hand. Many do not or are not willing to put in the work.
"pushed out of the city"? Please share the details of that plan with us.
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Old 05-17-2019, 02:23 PM
 
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All I can tell is that you can't really tell what is going on around you let alone what "libs want."

Will that do in terms of telling you you're wrong?

My dream is that maybe more people will stop dreaming up their own version of what others think and start thinking for themselves more in terms of what the real solutions might be for all concerned. If I have a dream that will never happen, it seems to be that one...
So what is your solution? It sounds to me like you don’t live in reality land. The reality is many people do not want to change or put the work into changing. They should not be allowed to engage in activities that puts others at risk for disease etc. or even ruin our spaces that we have worked hard for.
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Old 05-17-2019, 02:28 PM
 
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So what is your solution? It sounds to me like you don’t live in reality land. The reality is many people do not want to change or put the work into changing. They should not be allowed to engage in activities that puts others at risk for disease etc. or even ruin our spaces that we have worked hard for.
How many cops do you think it would take to control the behavior of every single homeless person in a large city? You say stuff like that and accuse others of not living in"reality land", really?
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Old 05-17-2019, 02:28 PM
 
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"pushed out of the city"? Please share the details of that plan with us.
Maybe like some others have mentioned like warehouses or quasi jails with the freedom to leave if they want to get help. Tent cities in rural areas. There is no one size solution for all. Some of these issues were exacerbated by the drug companies and doctors pushing drugs. Others are just a list of poor decisions. Some is not controlling our boarder. Despite what we have been told from the left for DECADES now that drug use does not hurt anyone else, we now see if full view that is bullshttt. Of course it hurts larger society and eventually hits all of us at a personal level.
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