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Old 05-18-2019, 08:07 AM
 
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Oh, here, then let me give you the Reader's Digest version.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QjZY3WiO9s&t=27s





O.K., I'll play your stupid game.


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Another gun nut, lookin for her 15 minutes of fame. YOU may want kids and teachers packing heat in a school setting, most of us rational thinkers realize what a stupid idea this is. First of all, how would you separate out a kid who wants to bring his gun to wipe out as many of his fellow classmates as possible, from a "nice kid"?

First, who said kids?



Rational people do not make up things to add to a discussion, to appear to be right.


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Secondly, it is an absolute fallacy that untrained CIVILIANS can effectively take out a threat...……..oh, yeah, the occasional blind squirrel finds an acorn and does kill some bad guy, but that is a very small percentage. Most civilians would freeze and either not be able to react, or would spray bullets all over the place, ie, friendly fire that would kill or wound even more people.

Again, a rational thinker, knows and understands that we are not talking about kids in schools with guns...we are talking about TRAINED teachers and those teachers would want to carry, not mandatory.


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Finally, if a shooting did occur at a school, and the police need to get in there, do we really want a hundred kids also armed, and the cops would have no way of knowing the bad guys from the good guys.



On of the last shooting, the cops did not enter....



Again, where is you rational thinking?


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This ain't the old west anymore, hopefully, we, as a society have come so much further. And even in the old west, gun owners had to check their guns with the sheriff and leave them there until they left town.

There it is....the "wild, wild, wild, wild west......another useless anti-gunner meme....wild wild west shoot'm up and kill everyone....


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This is a stupid idea that will die. (Oh, and btw, I own guns myself)

Toy guns don't count....


For your reading enjoyment...


https://www.nraila.org/gun-laws/armed-citizen/

Last edited by chucksnee; 05-18-2019 at 08:15 AM..
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Old 05-18-2019, 08:08 AM
 
Location: Ft. Myers
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Ya know, 99% of us somehow get through every day without carrying a gun around with us. Mine stay safely at home, and I have never faced a situation where I felt the need to have one on me, whether it is going to work, shopping, dining out, etc.

All guns in the hands of untrained people do are get the gun carrier killed, or other innocent people shot. Granny isn't a suitable candidate to be carrying an AK.
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Old 05-18-2019, 08:09 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Ya know, 99% of us somehow get through every day without carrying a gun around with us.

We call you property.
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Old 05-18-2019, 08:13 AM
 
Location: Ft. Myers
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O.K., I'll play your stupid game.





First, who said kids?



Rational people do not make up things to add to a discussion, to appear to be right.





Again, a rational thinker, knows and understands that we are not talking about kids in schools with guns...we are talking about TRAINED teachers and those teachers would want to carry, not mandatory.







On of the last shooting, the cops did not enter....



Again, where is you rational thinking?





There it is....the "wild, wild, wild, wild west......another useless anti-gunner meme....wild wild west shoot'm up and kill everyone....





Toy guns don't count....


For your reading enjoyment...


https://www.nraila.org/gun-laws/armed-citizen/

First off, police officers are trained and continue to train, on the proper use of guns. Every few months they have to continue that training. If a teacher or student did the same, they might be proficient, but they will never do that.

Secondly, civilians will make stupid decisions when the adrenaline is flowing. Here is a perfect example, a shop owner shoots a guy for STEALING $36 worth of beer. Now the shop owner will be going to prison too.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIF0sMvXmsU
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Old 05-18-2019, 08:19 AM
 
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Oh, here, then let me give you the Reader's Digest version.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QjZY3WiO9s&t=27s

And that video....when the armed guys walk in, they know who has the gun.....they shoot the teacher and then go stragiht for the person who they KNOW has the gun....


Then, on top of that, even the guy who knew about guns, they put him in a position that he was not used to. If you are not used to shooting with gloves, then of course you're going to mess up.....and not have the same reaction time.....
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Old 05-18-2019, 08:22 AM
 
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First off, police officers are trained and continue to train, on the proper use of guns. Every few months they have to continue that training. If a teacher or student did the same, they might be proficient, but they will never do that.

Secondly, civilians will make stupid decisions when the adrenaline is flowing. Here is a perfect example, a shop owner shoots a guy for STEALING $36 worth of beer. Now the shop owner will be going to prison too.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIF0sMvXmsU

I noticed you did not answer all the questions....


Again, we are not talking about the children....before you continue to say children, back it up with something that says we are talking about children also....not donnies adding to the discussion, to make himself feel better...


People are stupid, how does that one video negate the thousands of people who were saved with guns in the link I provided....




And good, that guy should go to jail....did you think I would say anything other?
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Old 05-18-2019, 08:27 AM
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkN08CGEloU
donnie, I guess this guy deserved to be car jacked....
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Old 05-18-2019, 08:41 AM
 
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Ya know, 99% of us somehow get through every day without carrying a gun around with us. Mine stay safely at home, and I have never faced a situation where I felt the need to have one on me, whether it is going to work, shopping, dining out, etc.

All guns in the hands of untrained people do are get the gun carrier killed, or other innocent people shot. Granny isn't a suitable candidate to be carrying an AK.


Newsflash way more than 1% of the population (even in a commie state like NY where I live carry guns daily).

Here's an article. Even a blue county in NY more than 10% of population has a handgun permit. NY only issues conceal carry permits.

https://buffalonews.com/2018/08/05/p...gun-ownership/
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Old 05-18-2019, 08:43 AM
 
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Granny isn't a suitable candidate to be carrying an AK.
Oh, I don't know about that.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erYrw5BTU4A
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Old 05-18-2019, 08:45 AM
 
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Ya know, 99% of us somehow get through every day without carrying a gun around with us. Mine stay safely at home, and I have never faced a situation where I felt the need to have one on me, whether it is going to work, shopping, dining out, etc.

All guns in the hands of untrained people do are get the gun carrier killed, or other innocent people shot. Granny isn't a suitable candidate to be carrying an AK.

If I'm carrying concealed, how do you know I'm carrying concealed? There goes your 99% drivel.....
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