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Old 05-20-2019, 02:20 PM
 
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2 weeks shy of viable is a long way off from 6 weeks. In fact the vast majority of abortions are done a full 9 weeks or more before viability.

Self awareness has nothing to do with it when there are no signs to be aware of in the first place.
"Like you've been told ...", abortion at 20 weeks gestation is 2 weeks shy of a viable premie.

 
Old 05-20-2019, 02:21 PM
 
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Really grasping at the absurd straw here, aren't you?
Nope, the poster claimed there was a biology thing when responding to my statement that men should be 50% responsible for all expenses related to a pregnancy if a woman is being force to gestate and give birth.

He is 50% biologically responsible for a pregnancy.
 
Old 05-20-2019, 02:23 PM
 
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"Like you've been told ...", abortion at 20 weeks gestation is 2 weeks shy of a viable premie.
And like you have been told the vast majority of abortions are done before 13 weeks, that is 9+ weeks before viability.
 
Old 05-20-2019, 02:24 PM
 
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I am a woman that has had children. I know more than a man what it feels like to be pregnant, and to have a menstrual cycle.
Congratulations! What does that have to do with whether termination of pregnancy is termination of life?
 
Old 05-20-2019, 02:24 PM
 
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No need to worry. SC associates Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, and their 7 colleagues will decide these cases for us very soon.
 
Old 05-20-2019, 02:26 PM
 
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No need to worry. SC associates Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, and their 7 colleagues will decide these cases for us very soon.
Nothing will change. I assume everyone knows that.
 
Old 05-20-2019, 02:30 PM
 
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Nothing will change. I assume everyone knows that.
I agree, many of these new laws will remain in place. Nothing will change that.
 
Old 05-20-2019, 02:33 PM
 
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You can keep posting this over and over. It doesn't make it any less false.

A baby is not an organ. No matter how much you pretend he/she is.
You have misunderstood the argument.

A fetus needs the resources of another human body (the pregnant woman) in order to continue to develop. In the posters analogy, the fetus is like the person who needs a bone marrow transplant, and the donor of the marrow would be equivalent to the pregnant woman.

By forcing birth upon women who do not want to be pregnant, you are forcing them to risk their lives the same way you would be risking the life of someone you forced to donate bone marrow to save someone else.

Do you think people should be compelled to give of their body to save the life of another person? If not why does a fetus get this when no other thing on the planet does?
 
Old 05-20-2019, 02:34 PM
 
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There's a bit more to it. Excluding rare incest, rape and risk to mother scenarios, pregnancy starts with two willing people who know full well that sex can result in pregnancy. When pregnancy occurs, they want to terminate that pregnancy, but they also want a lot of time to discover the pregnancy and make decisions about termination. Maybe it's time that people with unwanted pregnancies took more responsibility to be self-aware and to manage the situation in a timely manner.

That has nothing in common with donating a kidney.
So forcing a woman to continue a pregnancy is a suitable punishment for her choice to have sex. Women who are raped did not choose to have sex, so since they are not guilty of choosing to have sex they get to terminate the pregnancy and avoid the punishment.
 
Old 05-20-2019, 02:36 PM
 
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https://apps.legislature.ky.gov/reco...tu_1jOQhk#HFA2

Someone please tell me what these idiots in Kentucky think what exactly child bearing age is.

Any what gives these idiots to test every woman of child bearing age to be tested for pregnancy each month and if they don't they can be arrested! NO JOKE!

https://apps.legislature.ky.gov/reco...tu_1jOQhk#HFA2
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