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No, they are all possible outcomes of things people choose to do, but by consenting to A you are not consenting to B and can do things to mitigate the damages from B happening.
IF a woman does not want to be pregnant, then it is a bad possible outcome of having sex just like a bad possible outcome of smoking is cancer. Many have sex and don't get pregnant, many smoke and don't get cancer. If either happens to some people that is a bad outcome for them.
Not everyone sees being pregnant or having children as a good thing.
Sure, choosing to swim doesn't mean you intend to drown, driving to work doesn't mean you consent to die in an accident or workplace violence, and on and on.
Though I often hear the slogan Safe, Legal, and Rare from choicers, the Rare begins and ends with birth control. You've pointed out that half of women who have abortions didn't use any bc in the month of pregnancy. Guttmacher has a figure I can't find right now for improper or inconsistent use of bc by the half who say they did use bc. imo, your analogies --- cancer, food poisoning, mugging, STI's compared with pregnancy and abortion --- offers a view that Rare means nothing. Though 'What the heck, just have an abortion' isn't exactly pro-abortion, it's closer to enjoy yourself, ending a pregnancy is Legal, Safe, and the same as removing a tumor.
None of these arguments matter. There is only one issue. Should the government control reproduction?
Give them the power to compel every pregnancy to be carried to term and what else will they do with that power?
The end of life is determined by a lack of a heartbeat....
Logic then must take into account, there is life with a heartbeat.
In these here United States, Society determined before a government existed, All People have a RIGHT to LIFE. We established a Government to protect that Right. Not to protect those that take Life.
Sure, choosing to swim doesn't mean you intend to drown, driving to work doesn't mean you consent to die in an accident or workplace violence, and on and on..
And if you smoke, you are agreeing that the possible outcome is ... cancer
And if you swim, you are agreeing that the possible outcome is .... drowning
And if you drive, you are agreeing that the possible outcome is ... car accident
And if you have sex, you are agreeing that the possible outcome is ... pregnancy
Spoiler alert: Sex makes babies. Not sure why some posters still do not understand this biological fact.
And if you smoke, you are agreeing that the possible outcome is ... cancer
And if you swim, you are agreeing that the possible outcome is .... drowning
And if you drive, you are agreeing that the possible outcome is ... car accident
And if you have sex, you are agreeing that the possible outcome is ... pregnancy
Spoiler alert: Sex makes babies. Not sure why some posters still do not understand this biological fact.
And if you do get cancer, you can get radiation or surgery or chemo to eradicate the cancerous cells.
And if you do get pregnant, you can terminate the pregnancy via an abortion.
Not sure why some posters still do not understand this fact.
Spoiler alert: most women who seek to terminate and unwanted pregnancy are not deterred by daily, hysterical internet rants about BUT YER A BABY KILLER. In fact, I'd argue that most women do not consider the opinion of randoms on the internet at all when making medical decisions for themselves. Isn't that strange?
The end of life is determined by a lack of a heartbeat....
Logic then must take into account, there is life with a heartbeat.
In these here United States, Society determined before a government existed, All People have a RIGHT to LIFE. We established a Government to protect that Right. Not to protect those that take Life.
No it isn't. Doctors can stop a heart from beating for an hour or more and the person is not declared dead.
Doctors regularly remove organs from a person for donation that is clinically dead, but their heart is beating.
Clinical death is at the cessation of regular brain activity.
A 26 week fetus has brain activity that mirrors what we see in a person declared clinically dead.
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As leading neuroscientist Michael Gazzaniga, a member of President Bush's Council on Bioethics, describes in his book The Ethical Brain, current neurology suggests that a fetus doesn't possess enough neural structure to harbor consciousness until about 26 weeks, when it first seems to react to pain. Before that, the fetal neural structure is about as sophisticated as that of a sea slug and its EEG as flat and unorganized as that of someone brain-dead.
If for "some women" [not sure who you polled or where you are pulling this "fact" from, but I'll play along] pregnancy is TORTURE?
DON'T GET PREGNANT
Right?
Or terminate your pregnancy, right?
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