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I think the trumpsters want to go to war. Iran is as good as any other innocent country. Then they could all see around their tv watching the republican propaganda news station, FOX, broadcast live pictures of women and children being slaughter. Pass the popcorn, Bobby Joe.
If the war hawks manage to sell a false flag attack and put us into a war with Iran it will not be the same as Iraq. We, meaning you too, will too many of our children and grandchildren for no other reason that the petro-dollar and/or the oil in Iran. Supporting Trump, Bolton and the other nutjobs makes you as responsible for the deaths of innocent people as they are.
I think the trumpsters want to go to war. Iran is as good as any other innocent country. Then they could all see around their tv watching the republican propaganda news station, FOX, broadcast live pictures of women and children being slaughter. Pass the popcorn, Bobby Joe.
If the war hawks manage to sell a false flag attack and put us into a war with Iran it will not be the same as Iraq. We, meaning you too, will too many of our children and grandchildren for no other reason that the petro-dollar and/or the oil in Iran. Supporting Trump, Bolton and the other nutjobs makes you as responsible for the deaths of innocent people as they are.
Pay attention folks ....... Leftists are now going to promote the #1 Terrorist Nation in the world as
"Innocent"
It doesn't get much crazier than that, but they do certainly show their allegiance -
AND it's NOT to the United States of America. That a FACT that we all need to remember.
The weekly chants of "Death to America" are not a Joke, these Iranian Leaders mean it.
even trump doesnt want war with iran, however sometimes circumstances sometimes dictate what happens. how about your trump hating liberals? if iran attacks US forces, lets say they attack an aircraft carrier or a carrier battle group, and kill a thousand US servicemen and women. are you going to stand there and say "well we shouldnt have been there in the first place". are you not going to cry out for retaliation against iran? or are you going to take irans side of the issue?
personally if iran attacks our military, then they deserve the pounding they get from our military. i would onject to preemptive strikes though.
even trump doesnt want war with iran, however sometimes circumstances sometimes dictate what happens. how about your trump hating liberals? if iran attacks US forces, lets say they attack an aircraft carrier or a carrier battle group, and kill a thousand US servicemen and women. are you going to stand there and say "well we shouldnt have been there in the first place". are you not going to cry out for retaliation against iran? or are you going to take irans side of the issue?
personally if iran attacks our military, then they deserve the pounding they get from our military. i would onject to preemptive strikes though.
Iran hasn't attacked the US. We'll cross that bridge if we get there.
In the mean time, Trump as of now is being the aggressor. Relations with Iran were at least stable with the nuclear deal Obama negotiated until he decided to re-impose the sanctions and harm their economy. A large subset of Trump's supporters did not ask for this when they voted for him.
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Not a Trump supporter, but, I would support military action against Iran, If they attacked a US asset, like ship or fired upon one of our aircraft if they were in international territory. Other that that I dont care who Iran screws with as long as it isn't us.
Iran hasn't attacked the US. We'll cross that bridge if we get there.
In the mean time, Trump as of now is being the aggressor. Relations with Iran were at least stable with the nuclear deal Obama negotiated until he decided to re-impose the sanctions and harm their economy. A large subset of Trump's supporters did not ask for this when they voted for him.
read up on your history, remember the year 1979? when the shah was deposed from power, and ultimately came to the US for cancer treatment? the government back then demanded that we send the shah back to iran for judgement, carter refused, and they took over our embassy. and just so you know, embassies around the world are considered foreign soil owned by the country whose flag flies over said embassy. and yes i know "it was the students that took over the embassy". reality check here, the the iranian government was not backing the students, they could have ordered the students to release the hostages at anytime and returned them to the US. they did so only when reagan took office in 1981 because they feared reagan burning down their country by using the military.
and i never said that iran has recently attacked the US military, i said there were credible threats, there is a difference. and trump is not being the aggressor here, he is properly positioning a naval force to project power IF NEEDED.
as for obamas nuclear "deal", it was a very bad deal to begin with as the obama administration caved on everything iran wanted. in fact the deal was so bad that not even the democrats in the senate would vote to ratify the deal.
and we knew what trump was going to do in dealing with iran and NK, because he said he would in the campaign.
read up on your history, remember the year 1979? when the shah was deposed from power, and ultimately came to the US for cancer treatment? the government back then demanded that we send the shah back to iran for judgement, carter refused, and they took over our embassy. and just so you know, embassies around the world are considered foreign soil owned by the country whose flag flies over said embassy. and yes i know "it was the students that took over the embassy". reality check here, the the iranian government was not backing the students, they could have ordered the students to release the hostages at anytime and returned them to the US. they did so only when reagan took office in 1981 because they feared reagan burning down their country by using the military.
and i never said that iran has recently attacked the US military, i said there were credible threats, there is a difference. and trump is not being the aggressor here, he is properly positioning a naval force to project power IF NEEDED.
as for obamas nuclear "deal", it was a very bad deal to begin with as the obama administration caved on everything iran wanted. in fact the deal was so bad that not even the democrats in the senate would vote to ratify the deal.
and we knew what trump was going to do in dealing with iran and NK, because he said he would in the campaign.
It's 2019. To raise military tensions over something that happened 40 years ago goes against everything Trump campaigned for when he advocated for less foreign intervention.
Furthermore, no one said Obama's nuclear deal was perfect, but the fact is he reduced the tensions between the 2 countries that Trump, with his actions, have re-ignited. Instead of improving upon the (as you say) flawed nuclear deal, he threw the baby out with the bath water and brought us back to square one.
Lastly, as another poster said in another thread, it seems like the root of the issue is that were forcing the presence of our "service people" within their general vicinity. Perhaps the reasonable response IMO would be to reduce this presence and then there wouldn't be a so-called threat to our bases.
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Trump is the Commander in Chief, not Obama, Kerry, Pelosi or Feinstein.
Whether or not we end in a new war with Iran is entirely up to him.
Nah.
It's up to Iran.
The letter apologizing for making them attack American interests will come from the DNC, along with the promise that we will help them rebuild.
Do you REALLY think that Normal People (ie those Deplorable, multi-phobic people who voted for Donald Trump) haven't noticed that Leftists are running around the World (Obama, Kerry, Pelosi) and telephoning Foreign Leaders (like Dianne Feinstein calling the Foreign Minister of Iran this week) telling them that Trump is Orange Man Bad and help us force him out of office??
Who is really "hoping for war" and bad things for the USA??
It's certainly not President Trump - and Normal People who pay attention to what's going on in the World, and don't use CNN,ABC,CBS,NBC,MSNBC and Left Wing Foreign Publications like the one in the OP -- are perfectly aware that President Trump is not a war monger.
He is something that Leftists don't understand and we accept that -- a Patriot that actually believes the USA is a good country and not a patsy to the Leftists, Socialists and Communists here and abroad.
Trump is the Commander in Chief, not Obama, Kerry, Pelosi or Feinstein.
Whether or not we end in a new war with Iran is entirely up to him.
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