trump says e verify is not practical

[pknopp]

Originally Posted by 3DogNight

Not sure why folks have such faith in e-verify. My last job hired illegals and used e-verify. Which I have a sneaking suspicion they partnered with another similar type of business in the area doing the same, because their entire labor staff was Hispanic and they put a Hispanic woman in HR to make it all easier.

The laborers at my job were using a SS# that blazed through the e-verify system just fine. It was another person's SS# according to comments made to me by our HR (totally complicit as a favor to the owner), and e-verify didn't catch that, just verified that it was a "live" or active number and ding, bienvenido to the 4 employees that are illegal.

Those who argue for e-verify do not ignore that the government (currently Trump's) is not enforcing it. Strong enforcement is a large part of the argument.

You know this though.

[3DogNight]

Originally Posted by madison999

Illegal alien steals identity.

Illegal alien passes e verify with stolen identity.

Fine employer for being victim of a criminal.

Makes perfect sense.

I wish. I'd love to see this place take it in the shorts.

A tale of two brothers:

One of the illegals at my former job had been using a stolen SS# for years. His brother also uses a stolen SS#. One wants to visit mom back in Mexico and is afraid of being blocked at the border for being here 10+yrs and overstaying whatever he had (visa? green card? no idea). Becomes brave enough to take the citizenship test and bingo, now has a new SS#.

How is that registered in our HR system for employment purposes?

For 10 years he was Name Name1-Name2 now he's Name Name1 with a new SS#. Brother #2 is still using someone else's SS# and hasn't seen mom in over a decade for fear of being barred from coming back because someone may find out the SS# belongs to ? (deceased?).

[pknopp]

Originally Posted by 3DogNight

I wish. I'd love to see this place take it in the shorts.

A tale of two brothers:

One of the illegals at my former job had been using a stolen SS# for years. His brother also uses a stolen SS#. One wants to visit mom back in Mexico and is afraid of being blocked at the border for being here 10+yrs and overstaying whatever he had (visa? green card? no idea). Becomes brave enough to take the citizenship test and bingo, now has a new SS#.

How is that registered in our HR system for employment purposes?

For 10 years he was Name Name1-Name2 now he's Name Name1 with a new SS#. Brother #2 is still using someone else's SS# and hasn't seen mom in over a decade for fear of being barred from coming back because someone may find out the SS# belongs to ? (deceased?).

S.S. already knows the number belongs to someone deceased.

[3DogNight]

Originally Posted by pknopp

S.S. already knows the number belongs to someone deceased.

I'm sure they do and don't seem to care, or I'd have seen some official letters in the mail, which I never did.

But does it bounce back on the e-verify system to the end user as taken? So that the employer knows they're complicit in a crime (that will never be pursued or punished).

[Oldglory]

Originally Posted by Hesychios

Are you sure, or do you know?

Don't make up facts with your feelings and preconceived notions.

https://www.numbersusa.com/blog/trum...ional-e-verify

[Oldglory]

Originally Posted by GABESTA535

Don't forget when Trump let this guy off the hook.....

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/...bashkin-311389

Sholom Rubashkin: Why Trump Commuted His Sentence | Fortune

"Meanwhile critics have pointed to allegations from hundreds of undocumented immigrants that Rubashkin fostered a hostile workplace that included 12-hour shifts without overtime pay, exposure to dangerous chemicals, and sexual harassment. (A jury acquitted Rubashkin in state court of 67 misdemeanor child labor law violations in 2010.) Former workers could not testify about the alleged exploitation as Rubashkin was not tried in federal court on immigration charges."

Rubashkin still served 8 years in prison! So no, he wasn't let off the hook. It's not unusual for any convicted criminal to get a commuted sentence.