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If it is about preserving life, (and that life begins at conception) then why did the Alabama law specifically exclude the destruction of IVF embryos? Why is is perfectly legally to destroy as many of those as you like?
Because an IVF embryo cannot be used to control and punish a woman for having recreational sex.
Pro-lifers have just outed themselves and their true agenda.
Hmmmm...would you rather save a jar of 100 million sperm that have the potential to fertilize a million eggs? No? Because of the magic of the fertilized egg? I guess potential doesn't really matter?
science can preserve sperm, and science can preserve embyos, but at this point in time science cannot preserve the eggs.
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Originally Posted by Annie53
Because an IVF embryo cannot be used to control and punish a woman for having recreational sex.
Pro-lifers have just outed themselves and their true agenda.
right, because pro lifers really do want to control women or perhaps pro choicers really hate people and want to get rid of as many as possible as soon as possible. that game can be played both ways here.
Who's no one? I believe that life does begin at conception. Embryos are still human. Why would anyone want to control women? If you think that's the agenda of the pro-lifers you are badly mistaken. This is about preserving life, not destroying it.
But I would save the child if I had to make a choice and that's the way I voted in your poll.
Lol...this is an entire life we're talking about. Think: your world dramatically altered for its remainder, and the creation of a human being.
It greatly amuses me whenever anyone refers to that as an "inconvenience" as if they just didn't bother to pick up a replacement bottle of mustard because they ran out, and the problem could be solved by driving a few blocks to the grocery store
Of course everyone would save the child for many reasons, but this doesn't serve the pro abortion argument in any way. This silly little thought experiment has been floating around for a few years where the illogical claim a "gotcha" victory over the pro life crowd.
Here is a reasonable discussion of it. I know it is a religious site, but it doesn't negate the clarity of the point. Abortion's New "Gotcha" Argument
Who's no one? I believe that life does begin at conception. Embryos are still human. Why would anyone want to control women? If you think that's the agenda of the pro-lifers you are badly mistaken. This is about preserving life, not destroying it.
But I would save the child if I had to make a choice and that's the way I voted in your poll.
Why? Why would you go after the the child? The kid you are saving is EXACTLY the same as the embryos. Right?
What do you actually think it proves? What exactly has been outed?
Because you, and I, and just about everyone here, except for one (weird) person who responded to this, knows damned well we'd run to and save the one child over the embryos in this hypothetical situation. Don't tell me you wouldn't.
If it is about preserving life, (and that life begins at conception) then why did the Alabama law specifically exclude the destruction of IVF embryos? Why is is perfectly legally to destroy as many of those as you like?
Technically, an IUD is not a contraceptive, but is an auto-abortive device. It interferes with the implantation of an embryo in the uterus. So, are IUDs now illegal to use in Alabama? If so, what would happen if a woman who had an IUD from elsewhere, traveled through Alabama? Would she be in violation of the law? Would the state conduct examinations of all women's reproductive organs to determine if they were compliant with the law?
Don't underestimate what these people might do and think that something like this is beyond possibility. They're on a roll right now and who knows what other repressive laws they might throw into the mix, before the courts shoot them down. Even if it all gets taken down, they've made their statement and scored their points with the fundamentalists. It's all political theatrics.
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