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Old 05-21-2019, 06:38 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Ever hear of Direct Primary Care?
Instead of paying insurance companies, or have your taxes raised skyhigh(Govern Universal), you pay your primary healthcare provider(your doctor) directly in monthly payments.


Instead of $500 - $1000 a month insurance premiums, co-pays, and reduced scripts, with deductibles, You pay your doctor a direct monthly payment of $75 - $200 a month, depending if single or family, and all your doctor primary needs and services are covered, including all prescriptions.
All your Direct Primary Care Payments are tax deductible.


Can you see why the Lobbyist for Big Pharma and Insurance Co's are in an uproar over this Free Market Concept?


People would also be shopping for their Direct Primary Care Giver, bringing competition back to healthcare to be the best, the lower price, or the quicker service.
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Old 05-21-2019, 06:56 PM
 
Location: Upstate NY 🇺🇸
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Sure. They're not new. It's concierge medicine. DH and I were fully prepared to go that route if we had to.

But this is what O'Rourke's Medicare for America and Bernie's Medicare for All plans would do--under different timetables.

One thing's for sure: Those newly-covered won't simply be welcomed into the EXISTING Medicare system. The existing Medicare system will be fundamentally changed. And seniors' pockets WILL be picked. Call it Medicaid for All.

And if you like your current Medicare...you CAN'T keep it.
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Old 05-21-2019, 07:36 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Sure. They're not new. It's concierge medicine. DH and I were fully prepared to go that route if we had to.

But this is what O'Rourke's Medicare for America and Bernie's Medicare for All plans would do--under different timetables.

One thing's for sure: Those newly-covered won't simply be welcomed into the EXISTING Medicare system. The existing Medicare system will be fundamentally changed. And seniors' pockets WILL be picked. Call it Medicaid for All.

And if you like your current Medicare...you CAN'T keep it.





No, it is not anything like Bernie or Beta's Universal Healthcare.
Government is not in the middle, involved and in control of your life, for one.
Their ideas have NO free-market competition. Competition lowers cost the best and gives you full control. Not Big Brother.


When government gets full control of your healthcare, they have full control of you. You are their property and costs come before you.
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Old 05-24-2019, 02:03 PM
 
Location: Florida
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I use a direct primary care practice. I really like it. It's not really concierge medicine, unless I am misunderstanding what concierge medicine is. The practice I go to does not accept any insurance benefits at all. I pay $65/adult and $25 for the first child and $10/second child each month, and we can go see the doctor as much as we need to. There are also reduced costs for imaging, bloodwork, etc. I think this is one way to solve the healthcare crisis. Medicaid for the poor, Medicare for the elderly, direct primary care for everyone else.

I'd still like to see universal hospital/severe illness coverage with minimal or no deductibles, though. DPC is not adequate as standalone coverage because obviously they aren't going to be able to treat a heart attack or a severe injury or cancer.

Not sure who is trying to ban DPC or why or where that idea came from. The practice I go to has a doctor who is in Washington frequently meeting with Congress and he updates his facebook page every week and hasn't said anything about it.
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Old 05-24-2019, 02:10 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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I use a direct primary care practice. I really like it. It's not really concierge medicine, unless I am misunderstanding what concierge medicine is. The practice I go to does not accept any insurance benefits at all. I pay $65/adult and $25 for the first child and $10/second child each month, and we can go see the doctor as much as we need to. There are also reduced costs for imaging, bloodwork, etc. I think this is one way to solve the healthcare crisis. Medicaid for the poor, Medicare for the elderly, direct primary care for everyone else.

I'd still like to see universal hospital/severe illness coverage with minimal or no deductibles, though. DPC is not adequate as standalone coverage because obviously they aren't going to be able to treat a heart attack or a severe injury or cancer.

Not sure who is trying to ban DPC or why or where that idea came from. The practice I go to has a doctor who is in Washington frequently meeting with Congress and he updates his facebook page every week and hasn't said anything about it.
Bernie, Beta and Pocahontas don't like it one bit, because government has no control.
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Old 05-24-2019, 02:21 PM
 
Location: Camberville
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What happens when your primary care physician can't provide the care you need?
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Old 05-24-2019, 02:34 PM
 
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So, what about something like chemo at $8000 a day, still can make $75-$200 a month payments?
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Old 05-24-2019, 02:50 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Right, that's why I said that there still needs to be something else. I have an ACA bronze plan with a high deductible in addition to the DPC plan. The DPC is only for primary care, not for specialty care/hospitalization/etc. My question was more about why the OP thinks someone is trying to ban it. Do you have a source, OP? Or are you just guessing that liberals wouldn't like it?
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Old 05-24-2019, 03:05 PM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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I use a direct primary care practice. I really like it.It's not really concierge medicine, unless I am misunderstanding what concierge medicine is. The practice I go to does not accept any insurance benefits at all. I pay $65/adult and $25 for the first child and $10/second child each month, and we can go see the doctor as much as we need to. There are also reduced costs for imaging, bloodwork, etc. I think this is one way to solve the healthcare crisis. Medicaid for the poor, Medicare for the elderly, direct primary care for everyone else.

I'd still like to see universal hospital/severe illness coverage with minimal or no deductibles, though. DPC is not adequate as standalone coverage because obviously they aren't going to be able to treat a heart attack or a severe injury or cancer.

Not sure who is trying to ban DPC or why or where that idea came from. The practice I go to has a doctor who is in Washington frequently meeting with Congress and he updates his facebook page every week and hasn't said anything about it.
Direct primary care is not concierge medicine.
As I understand it, concierge practices do take health insurance, whereas DPC practices do not.

Some other differences noted here:

https://www.physicianspractice.com/p...t-primary-care

This model seems pretty viable here in CO.

“Colorado is home to close to 10 percent of the Direct Primary Care clinics in the country.”

https://www.coloradohealthinstitute....er-health-care

Montana is set to adopt it as well.

“Montana is adopting a new form of healthcare where the billing and payment agreement made between a doctor and their patient does not involve insurance.”

https://www.kulr8.com/news/health/mo...ce5de2801.html




I searched and searched and found nary a mention about these practices as concerns Sanders, et al.

Did find this very thoughtful opinion piece though:

https://thehill.com/opinion/healthca...ible-plans-and
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Old 05-24-2019, 03:06 PM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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Bernie, Beta and Pocahontas don't like it one bit, because government has no control.
Link?
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