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Old 05-22-2019, 11:44 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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Yet ,when given the chance the stock market tripled under his watch - and unemployment headed down constantly...and on and on.

Helicopter money from the fed, endless QE and making the rich super rich while neglecting the average American (particularly the working class) will have that effect, yes.
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Old 05-23-2019, 07:24 AM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Helicopter money from the fed, endless QE and making the rich super rich while neglecting the average American (particularly the working class) will have that effect, yes.
And the same is largely going on with Trump. He actually wants to end it but the Fed don't fearing the effects of the interest rate hikes. Got a new excuse that isn't also one to use on Trump?
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Old 05-23-2019, 07:30 AM
 
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And the same is largely going on with Trump. He actually wants to end it but the Fed don't fearing the effects of the interest rate hikes. Got a new excuse that isn't also one to use on Trump?


BS- Trump is actually attempting to do something for middle class manufacturing workers. Obama (despite campaign promises) failed to do ANYTHING to address trade issues with NAFTA and China trade issues.


Obama was too busy lining the pockets of his cronies and neglected the middle class, thus the election of Trump in 2016.


Obama is essentially responsible for Trump's election in 2016. Had Obama been an effective POTUS, Hillary would have won. However, his ineptitude demanded a change from democrat policy as usual. The only "job growth" under Obama was part time burger flipping jobs. Obama did his best to oppose oil exploration in the US and the boom that has resulted. Obama was essentially an agent against economic progress, but putting additional regulations on industry to hamper economic development.
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Old 05-23-2019, 07:33 AM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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And the same is largely going on with Trump. He actually wants to end it but the Fed don't fearing the effects of the interest rate hikes. Got a new excuse that isn't also one to use on Trump?

I don't see the stock market tripling. More like puking. You're more likely to get wealth equality in this environment, than with an economic nincompoop like Obama who serves the parasitic class while only giving lip service to the poor and working class. With Trump, if the ultra rich can't share, then it will be taken from them via crashing equities.

Dims still want wealth equality, right? You can have that, but not without some pain and hardship along the way. Such is life.
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Old 05-23-2019, 07:38 AM
 
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https://markets.businessinsider.com/...9-4-1028115373 - April 2019

The Federal Reserve said Tuesday that industrial production — which measures factory, mine, and utility output — fell 0.1% last month. Economists surveyed by the Wall Street Journal had expected a 0.2% increase
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In the Charleston area. Volvo began construction on a major manufacturing plant in 2014. It opened in 2018. Thanks Trump -- for what?

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Old 05-23-2019, 07:42 AM
 
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I don't see the stock market tripling. More like puking. You're more likely to get wealth equality in this environment, than with an economic nincompoop like Obama who serves the parasitic class while only giving lip service to the poor and working class. With Trump, if the ultra rich can't share, then it will be taken from them via crashing equities.

Dims still want wealth equality, right? You can have that, but not without some pain and hardship along the way. Such is life.
Well, this is truly brilliant being as 52% of Americans own stock! Now we have to just call all of them "rich" and say that down is up and good is bad and that if the market goes down this is a FEATURE.......

All cred has now went out the window. If we somehow fool ourselves to say that manufacturing is increasing more than before (it isn't), then we should accept TRILLIONS in lost stock market returns (about 4 Trillion down just in the last 17 months)......

Wow, Andy, that's a brand new outlook. I can't imagine that you made it up, tho...too creative. Would you mind telling us who told you about this?
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Old 05-23-2019, 07:43 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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BS- Trump is actually attempting to do something for middle class manufacturing workers. Obama (despite campaign promises) failed to do ANYTHING to address trade issues with NAFTA and China trade issues.


Obama was too busy lining the pockets of his cronies and neglected the middle class, thus the election of Trump in 2016.


Obama is essentially responsible for Trump's election in 2016. Had Obama been an effective POTUS, Hillary would have won. However, his ineptitude demanded a change from democrat policy as usual. The only "job growth" under Obama was part time burger flipping jobs. Obama did his best to oppose oil exploration in the US and the boom that has resulted. Obama was essentially an agent against economic progress, but putting additional regulations on industry to hamper economic development.
Do you have anything specific that Trump has done and please spare me the cutting of red tape excuse. Tell me did those manufacturing jobs come back to the rust belt, how about steel factories. Seems most of the manufacturing increases have been from foreign car companies and Boeing.
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Old 05-23-2019, 07:45 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Obama perpetuated despair and the notion that the US had seen its best years gone by, much as Jimmy Carter did.


In that vein, Obama contended that US manufacturing was on a permanent decline and that nothing could be done to correct that trend. With that in mind, Obama failed to do anything with trade agreements to address unfair and illegal trade practices with China and Mexico.


Fast forward two years into the Trump admin and manufacturing is experiencing a resurgence. Funny how dems always seem to get that issue wrong and are perfectly fine with allowing other countries to take advantage of the US, much to the detriment of middle class manufacturing jobs.


https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckde.../#83ca2325635a


The thing that is probably never coming back is rust belt voters to the dem party. It has become painfully obvious that the dems care nothing of the middle class and are more concerned with illegals.
Yes, Obammy the affirmative action POtuS was proven dead wrong on a great many things..
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Old 05-23-2019, 07:48 AM
 
Location: City Data Land
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Not only was Obama the most Inexperienced incompetent President we've ever had, it will soon be shown that he's also been the most corrupt.


He knowingly approved spying on US Citizens and SCOTUS members for at least the last 4+ years of his term, probably more.

But he was the first Black President and that makes him untouchable.
Thanks for the laugh. Apparently you haven't read Obama's resume. His "inexperience" includes a Harvard law degree, work as a civil rights attorney, and he was a Senator in Illinois for three terms. He also taught constitutional law at UC Chicago. And how many times has he been under federal investigation? That would be 0. How many times has he cheated on his wife with porn stars and bought them off? Hmm, I can't seem to recall any.

And Trump? He's a failed real estate magnate who makes a living scamming students, contractors, his creditors, his wives, and the American people. He even scammed his voters promising a border wall that he received$8 billion for and won't deliver on. That's money he took from OUR pockets via taxes, which is another form of welfare. And how much experience does he have in politics and law? None at all. And how many federal investigations has Trump been under? Half his buddies have been fired, indicted, or jailed for scandals or federal crimes. What were you saying about corruption and inexperience again?
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Old 05-23-2019, 07:54 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Yes, Obammy the affirmative action POtuS was proven dead wrong on a great many things..
Where did you get the name "Obammy" from? What reference are you making?
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