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Old 05-23-2019, 10:09 PM
 
Location: Eugene, Oregon
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Trump's criminal activities did not cease when he became president. It is the duty of the people's house to investigate these matters, to expose the crimes and punish the guilty. This is what "drain the swamp" is really about.

The bizarre logic of the Trumpists seems to be that proof of crimes has to be presented, before investigation for crimes can take place. They want to give him a free pass, so he will be exempt from the rules that all others must obey. They think that because they see him as flawless and divine, that all the rest of us should have to bow to him, as well. Their agenda is the equivalent of an American Taliban. A big fall for Trump and themselves, is what they will actually receive. It won't be long before there will be nothing left but holes, in his Swiss cheese defense.
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Old 05-23-2019, 10:40 PM
 
Location: Myrtle Creek, Oregon
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The astonishing thing is that Trump is committing felony obstruction of justice every day, in plain sight, convicted by his own mouth.
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Old 05-23-2019, 10:49 PM
 
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Are you seriously suggesting that it's OK for POTUS to be a traitor as long as the economy is great? Now that is the very definition of this Trump Derangement Syndrome.
I listed more items than just the economy.

There are no real evidences of him being a traitor other than some people's fantasy world.

In fact, he you could he has been tougher on Russia than Obama.

He confronted Russia in Syria
Defense spending... up
Sanction increased

Meanwhile on the other side of the aisle...

Hilary's failed reset with Russia
Bill's $500K speech in Russia... followed by the uranium transfer
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Old 05-24-2019, 05:10 AM
 
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Police don't issue warrants, the courts do. And a Federal Court Judge just confirmed that Congress should be given the records.

And if you tell the police that something illegal is going on, they will certainly obtain a warrant from a judge to investigate, citing you as the witness with probable cause
"a Federal Court Judge" at the 1st level of our courts, which just happens to be appointed by obama, surprise, surprise, "judge shopping" AGAIN.

It WILL be appealed and the judges ruing WILL be overturned.
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Old 05-24-2019, 05:15 AM
 
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And how's he going to do that? It's not that Trump's a millionaire or billionaire or whatever he claims he is. They want to see if there is anything illegal about his financial dealings. But you knew that.
What "They want to see" has NOTHING to do with the duties of being president.

Congress does NOT go after individual people for crimes they may or may not have committed while being a "private" citizen.

" It's not that Trump's a millionaire or billionaire or whatever he claims he is."

I am glad to see you ADMIT to being ignorant on the details but, claim to KNOW so much.

Keep in mind the dems OFTEN do things for the "right now", the nuclear option, stating NOT to nominate judges in a president's last year in office, etc., that came back to haunt them later because they CAN'T think passed right NOW.

Look a the president it would set. ANY politicians business, private personal records including tax returns could be released to the public INCLUDING fienstein's, "Richard Charles Blum (born July 31, 1935[1]) is an American investment banker and husband of United States Senator Dianne Feinstein. He is the chairman and president of Blum Capital, an equity investment management firm that acts as general partner for various investment partnerships and provides investment advisory services. Blum also serves in various boards of directors of several companies, including CB Richard Ellis, where until May 2009 he served as the chairman of that board. He has been a regent of the University of California since 2002."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_C._Blum

And pelosi's, "Paul Francis Pelosi Sr. (born April 15, 1940) is an American businessman who owns and operates Financial Leasing Services, Inc., a San Francisco-based real estate and venture capital investment and consulting firm. In addition, he was the owner of the now-defunct Sacramento Mountain Lions of the United Football League."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Pelosi

Both RIPE for "shaky" deals.

I'm SURE their husbands would NOT like ALL of the taxes, business and private finances scrutinized by congress.

As they say, "Be CAREFUL, what you wish for!"

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Old 05-24-2019, 05:30 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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Given? Without a judges warrant?


Someone is in big trouble and it ain't Trump.
“A subpoena (pronounced "suh-pee-nuh") is a request for the production of documents, or a request to appear in court or other legal proceeding. It is court-ordered command that essentially requires you to do something, such as testify or present information that may help support the facts that are at issue in a pending case.”

https://litigation.findlaw.com/going...-subpoena.html
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Old 05-24-2019, 05:42 AM
 
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the fascist liberals should be warned to tread very carefully in this...as they may open up a can of worms on themselves


you say you want a honest debate... mention "business dealing of trump with Russia...


but as soon as someone shows the facts that hitlery/Obama had many of the same dealing..you dismiss it


lets look at the claimed money laundering the dims say about trump...but FAIL to look in the mirror


even though there is tones of evidence that all the money laundering was done by the Clintons


hmm so-called alleged money laundering...

many connections to Obama and the clintons

the same Russian Investment Fund leader (Russian mafia) who met Trump has had dealings with, has met with bill and Hillary, and paid bill's speaking fee

the same Erik Prince (Blackwater) who got his first contracts under..bill Clinton

the same Sheikh Mohammed bin Zayed, Crown Prince of Abu Dhabi who met with Bill Clinton

the same Sheikh Mohammed bin Zayed, Crown Prince of Abu Dhabi who gave a million dollars to help fund the Clinton Presidential Library

the same George Nader , a Lebanese-American businessman, who was a negotiator with Syria during the Clinton administration, for the Israel-Syria talks...the same Nader who acted in president Obama's behalf for his foreign policy team...under SoS Hillary Clinton




the same oligarch paid Clinton millions









from 2015






Democrats and the left didn't just collude with Russia; they embraced them, and show no shame in having done so.
https://www.investors.com/politics/e...rump-campaign/




Saudi Arabia majorly funded the Clinton Presidential Library






but trump bad, trump bad, trump bad...if you want an honest debate/conversation, then admit, that the claims against trump, also have many connections to the democrats

They won't touch this with a 10' pole!
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Old 05-24-2019, 05:44 AM
 
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Not to mention that if Joe six pack attempts to hide his assets or financial dealings he's in for a world of hurt if it's even suspected he's laundering money.

How Trump managed to get a casino license without divulging every financial transaction he's ever had without whining about it is a head scratcher indeed.
"How Trump managed to get a casino license without divulging every financial transaction he's ever had without whining about it is a head scratcher indeed."

You don't know much about how NY city operates, do you?

And the same with MOST big cities.
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Old 05-24-2019, 05:46 AM
 
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Police don't issue warrants, the courts do. And a Federal Court Judge just confirmed that Congress should be given the records.

And if you tell the police that something illegal is going on, they will certainly obtain a warrant from a judge to investigate, citing you as the witness with probable cause
Dude, the evidence for the warrant comes from the police from an INVESTIGATION. A judge just doesn't issue a warrant willy nilly on their own just because they feel like it. If there was evidence of a crime Mueller would have already had the related documents. There is no evidence.
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Old 05-24-2019, 05:48 AM
 
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“A subpoena (pronounced "suh-pee-nuh") is a request for the production of documents, or a request to appear in court or other legal proceeding. It is court-ordered command that essentially requires you to do something, such as testify or present information that may help support the facts that are at issue in a pending case.”

https://litigation.findlaw.com/going...-subpoena.html
There is no pending case. The subpoena wasn't issued by a court. Congress is not a law enforcement body that acts as court. This entire thing is political.
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