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Old 05-23-2019, 10:30 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Curious that so many keep either forgetting or ignoring this.

As I noted in the "Manafort in Prison" thread, two different reports out today about evidence of "pay-to-play" both involving bank loans, one made to Manafort and one to Trump, the latter in 2018 no less.


Anyone who thinks that there is no reason to pursue this has blinders on.
Pay to play...that was Obama and the democrats from 2009 on
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Old 05-23-2019, 10:30 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Trump's criminal activities did not cease when he became president. It is the duty of the people's house to investigate these matters, to expose the crimes and punish the guilty. This is what "drain the swamp" is really about.
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Old 05-23-2019, 10:30 AM
 
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if the fascist liberals actually wanted to help this country, then they would be talking to him about infrastructure, instead all they talk about is impeachment and finding a crime to fit, when there is none
What will likely happen is that they find some minor infraction, that is normally done by the elites to protect or enhance their income... they will blow it out of proportion to make it seem like a major crime and an impeachable offense - when in truth they likely all do the same thing.

And because they all do the same thing, they will likely find something, because they know where to go to find these things because they likely do the same things.

Look at Manafort... tax crimes from almost a decade ago. They let him get away with that until they needed to tighten the screws for a larger purpose.

That's what I am expecting, but we will see.


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Trump's criminal activities did not cease when he became president. It is the duty of the people's house to investigate these matters, to expose the crimes and punish the guilty. This is what "drain the swamp" is really about.
Mueller disagrees. What do you have that he doesn't?
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Old 05-23-2019, 10:37 AM
 
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Well, Cohen testified under oath that financial crimes were committed and a money laundering expert that saw Trump's records stated that there was reasonable suspicion that a crime was taking place sufficient to alert the Treasury Department.

The premise that a crime must first be proven before the authority with oversight responsibilities can endeavor on an investigation of such allegations is buffoonish on its face.
IIRC, the records already provided show a one time $54 million interest income that cannot be accounted for.
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Old 05-23-2019, 10:41 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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What will likely happen is that they find some minor infraction, that is normally done by the elites to protect or enhance their income... they will blow it out of proportion to make it seem like a major crime and an impeachable offense - when in truth they likely all do the same thing.

And because they all do the same thing, they will likely find something, because they know where to go to find these things because they likely do the same things.

Look at Manafort... tax crimes from almost a decade ago. They let him get away with that until they needed to tighten the screws for a larger purpose.

That's what I am expecting, but we will see.




Mueller disagrees. What do you have that he doesn't?
Maybe we will. Long before Trump was president, there were multiple accusations and rumors that his real estate ventures were being used to launder money for Russian oligarchs avoiding US sanctions. There is now evidence that this laundering continued even after the election with the recent report that a fraud specialist at DB flagged his transactions. Congress has a duty to investigate. If there is nothing, then there is nothing and we move on.
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Old 05-23-2019, 10:42 AM
 
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Pay to play...that was Obama and the democrats from 2009 on
Read up on Russian oligarchs. One needed the sanctions lifted. He sent his lobbyist David Vitter to McConnell. The sanctions were lifted, a Russian owned plant is going into Kentucky and Mrs. Vitter finally got her appointment as federal just approved by the Senate.

Pay to play is a well established policy in DC no matter who runs the place.

IOKIYAAR. Nobody screams lock them up.
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Old 05-23-2019, 10:42 AM
 
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Maybe we will. Long before Trump was president, there were multiple accusations and rumors that his real estate ventures were being used to launder money for Russian oligarchs avoiding US sanctions. There is now evidence that this laundering continued even after the election with the recent report that a fraud specialist at DB flagged his transactions. Congress has a duty to investigate. If there is nothing, then there is nothing and we move on.
There were rumors and accusations that Obama was born in Kenya.

What's the difference?

Do you have a link mentioning this evidence of laundering?

People said they would move on after Mueller... not so much, huh...
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Old 05-23-2019, 10:43 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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There were rumors and accusations that Obama was born in Kenya.

What's the difference?
Don't be silly. We are trying to have an intelligent discussion here.
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Old 05-23-2019, 10:47 AM
 
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Probably why divesting before taking office is also a good idea for the president.
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Old 05-23-2019, 10:52 AM
 
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Don't be silly. We are trying to have an intelligent discussion here.
That’s a mistake on your part.
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