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Old 05-27-2019, 09:07 AM
 
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I guess you need to open a dictionary and read the definition of "wanted" as opposed to actual construction and operation. Go to dictionary.com.
Oh, operational is what you want now?

Sure the first operational nuclear bomb was during Obama and the dem congess in 2009.

You just moved your goal post from 1963 to 2009.
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Old 05-27-2019, 09:11 AM
 
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Oh, operational is what you want now?

Sure the first operational nuclear bomb was during Obama and the dem congess in 2009.

You just moved your goal post from 1963 to 2009.
Wrong you are mixing apples with oranges. 1962 was building a nuclear power plant with soviet assistance. In the 80s it was building nuclear weapons with their own technology. See the difference. Even the soviets were not so stupid as to NK nuclear weapons technology.
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Old 05-27-2019, 09:14 AM
 
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Wrong you are mixing apples with oranges. 1962 was building a nuclear power plant. In the 80s it was building nuclear weapons. See the difference. Even the soviets were not so stupid as to NK nuclear weapons technology.
Lol.

The same soviets wanting to park nukes 90 miles off our shores and took us to the brink of war? Those soviets?

Gullible is a word that comes to mind.
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Old 05-27-2019, 09:14 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Do you want NK to obtain nuclear weapons so that the US becomes their lap dog, doing their bidding?

Great plan there bro!



People obtain guns, so they can be on equal ground, with those already with guns.
The deer were not coming for the guns in Concord or Lexington.


Kim saw what they did to Khadafi, in Libya.
Lay down your arms so you can be oppressed or killed... by people with guns. Great idea.
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Old 05-27-2019, 09:21 AM
 
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Lol.

The same soviets wanting to park nukes 90 miles off our shores and took us to the brink of war? Those soviets?

Gullible is a word that comes to mind.
This discussion has flew right over your head. Re-read my post. Did the Soviets give nuclear weapons technology to Cuba?

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Old 05-27-2019, 10:02 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Bless your heart. Didn't you not bother to read it at all?


#1 "Probably a fizzle" i.e. Didn't work. 2006


#2 "Considered successful" ~2.5KT 2009 (go look at what I posted)

Time to give it up. You clearly had no idea what you were saying when you said they would get the bomb due to Trump. They got the bomb during Obama's term.

Your posts here are nothing but bogus arguments against Trump. This proves it 100%.
I never heard Obama say that he wasn't bothered by it.

Trump says he's not 'personally bothered' by North Korea missile tests
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Old 05-27-2019, 10:09 AM
 
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I never heard Obama say that he wasn't bothered by it.

Trump says he's not 'personally bothered' by North Korea missile tests
Being bothered would require having adequacy where it counts. We already know from stormy that Trump is quite lacking in that regard
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Old 05-27-2019, 10:10 AM
 
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This discussion has flew right over your head. Re-read my post. Did the Soviets give nuclear weapons technology to Cuba?
Lol.

Talk about going over one's head.

If you can't understand that different situations call for different approaches....

Let me enilighten you.

With Cuba, the strategy was to have offensive nukes in place immediately. They thought they could have them in place secretly, and once they were established, keep them there. They didn't realize the US would discover them so quickly or be as confrontational about it.

Following the Cuban Missile Crisis, it would have been a fool's errand to directly send nukes to NK and provoke al US response like that of Cuba. However, by providing the start of a nuke program under the guise of helping with power, they could start the long game.

If this still went over your head, let me know and I'll simplify it more for you.
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Old 05-27-2019, 10:11 AM
 
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I never heard Obama say that he wasn't bothered by it.

Trump says he's not 'personally bothered' by North Korea missile tests
War! War! War!
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Old 05-27-2019, 10:19 AM
 
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Lol.

Talk about going over one's head.

If you can't understand that different situations call for different approaches....

Let me enilighten you.

With Cuba, the strategy was to have offensive nukes in place immediately. They thought they could have them in place secretly, and once they were established, keep them there. They didn't realize the US would discover them so quickly or be as confrontational about it.

Following the Cuban Missile Crisis, it would have been a fool's errand to directly send nukes to NK and provoke al US response like that of Cuba. However, by providing the start of a nuke program under the guise of helping with power, they could start the long game.

If this still went over your head, let me know and I'll simplify it more for you.
Your analysis is way off and completely wrong. Why would the Soviets transfer nuclear weapons technology to a nation as unstable as NK? That the Soviets intended or wanted the NKoreans to develop their own nuclear weapons is ridiculous. Furthermore by 1963, relations with the Soviets were already fraying. As I said building a nuclear power plant and nuclear weapons technology are not the same to those of us living in the real world.


That you would even argue the point shows profound lack of knowledge in this area.

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