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Old 05-31-2019, 03:12 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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This had nothing to do with abortion restrictions or Roe v Wade. A judge issued a political edict.
It is pretty clear that Missouri's approach to abortion is to completely ban it. One facet of that is by enacting regulations that make it impossible for clinics to comply or that reduce access for patients (such as a 72 hour waiting period between counselling and having the procedure). The whole thing is political.
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Old 05-31-2019, 04:21 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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It is pretty clear that Missouri's approach to abortion is to completely ban it. One facet of that is by enacting regulations that make it impossible for clinics to comply or that reduce access for patients (such as a 72 hour waiting period between counselling and having the procedure). The whole thing is political.
That is how they closed the other 4 clinics, required visiting privileges at hospitals, wider hallways. The judge put off his decision and asked them to work this out, the obstacle is still interviews with residents that are not insured. This is the same nonsense they pulled in Texas.
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Old 05-31-2019, 04:26 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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That is how they closed the other 4 clinics, required visiting privileges at hospitals, wider hallways. The judge put off his decision and asked them to work this out, the obstacle is still interviews with residents that are not insured. This is the same nonsense they pulled in Texas.
Most residents are insured. It is hard to envision they would not be.
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Old 05-31-2019, 04:41 PM
 
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This had nothing to do with abortion restrictions or Roe v Wade. A judge issued a political edict.
RvW made it clear states are not allowed to ban abortion. Closing the only clinic is a de facto banning of abortion in Missouri.
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Old 05-31-2019, 08:02 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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This had nothing to do with abortion restrictions or Roe v Wade. A judge issued a political edict.
So you quite strongly feel that all abortion clinics must be shut down?
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Old 05-31-2019, 08:50 PM
 
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Abortion rates have been declining for years. The states who are trying to make it more difficult should first do something about all their kids in foster care. Missouri has over 13,000. Yeah, let's add more to the system since once they are born republicans don't care about them anymore. There's something seriously wrong with that.
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Old 06-01-2019, 04:00 AM
 
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Abortion rates have been declining for years. The states who are trying to make it more difficult should first do something about all their kids in foster care. Missouri has over 13,000. Yeah, let's add more to the system since once they are born republicans don't care about them anymore. There's something seriously wrong with that.
20% of all pregnancies end in abortion.

35% of all pregnancies in NYC end in abortion.

Declining? Not really. Rare? Not. Even. Close.
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Old 06-01-2019, 06:13 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Most residents are insured. It is hard to envision they would not be.
The 5 residents come from a local university and are not employed by PP, I'm not sure that their insurance covers this. The state has already threatened criminal charges. This has more details.


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Planned Parenthood said it has no power to compel those doctors to speak to the department about the investigation, which began in April after a routine inspection a month earlier. The clinic said the March 11-13 inspection included interviews with doctors and staff and cited some "non-remarkable" deficiencies — such as failing to ensure all staff participated in a fire drill. The inspection also cited Planned Parenthood for the timing of a pelvic exam and the clinic's failure to ensure that the same doctor who provided an "informed consent visit" three days before an abortion was also the one performing the procedure. The clinic says it submitted a correction plan as required.
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/...74b36e316.html
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Old 06-01-2019, 07:43 AM
 
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RvW made it clear states are not allowed to ban abortion. Closing the only clinic is a de facto banning of abortion in Missouri.
RvW and later cases also ruled that a state may regulate the abortion procedure to the extent that the regulation reasonably relates to the preservation and protection of maternal health. Examples of permissible state regulation in this area are requirements as to the qualifications of the person who is to perform the abortion; the licensure of that person; the facility in which the procedure is to be performed, that is, whether it must be a hospital or may be a clinic or some other place of less-than-hospital status; the licensing of the facility; and the like.
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Old 06-01-2019, 08:38 AM
 
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The 5 residents come from a local university and are not employed by PP, I'm not sure that their insurance covers this. The state has already threatened criminal charges. This has more details.



https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/...74b36e316.html
I think a bigger question is why is a small facility is using so many residents instead of actual physicians.
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