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Originally Posted by boneyard1962
Agreed. Common sense= common to who. Conventional wisdom although often correct is also proven wrong many times.
Most people who call transgenders sick or name call, do so because they dont know any. I know because I used to bash them relentlessly and shamelessly. Then I got to know a few and then a few more. They are on average good people. No one would pick the road they have chosen, just to get attention or for a cheap thrill. It is simply far too humiliating and abusive.
Where I live the majority of Transgenders are very passable. In fact if you were to ask my wife how you tell them from a real woman she will answer and I quote. "They are more beautiful."
That said they dont get paid the same, dont have equal opportunities, are shunned by family, ridiculed by many and the police really dont care what happens to them. It is a hard life.
I have several for friends and I am ashamed to admit that I still feel uncomfortable in public when I am with them. Why? Because of the stares. No one just wakes up and says "well hell time to put my woman side up front."
My daughters are proud of me. "Dad you're so progressive now." Not really, I just know good people when I meet them, and I am man enough to admit when I am wrong.
You ask any Transgender when they first realized they were different. I have never met one that doesn't say the same thing. "Since I was born."
Tried to rep you, but have given too much out, so I'll give the post a 👍
Just make it simple and call them "it" or "freak".
Why must you hate them? I was once like you. Do you know any of them personally? Ah ok you form your conclusion based upon observation. Fair enough. I did too.
Oh I used to be a hero. I used to practice my martial arts on them. Me and friends. Jump spinning back fist night. We all had to lay a gay or tranny out with a jump spinning back fist, different technique each time. It was loads of fun. Until we were finally caught. That wasn't any fun at all. This was in 1982.
For years I hated them. How they cried when I beat them up. How they screamed or couldn't fight like I thought they should. How they walked and talked. Yes pretty sure, if there is a hell there is a room waiting for me.
Then you actually meet one and get to know them a little. I can't speak for you, or anyone else, but for me? The shame I felt for what I did in my youth was nearly unbearable. When the one who would become my friend told me of the beatings she had taken, being raped, blamed by her family for it all and eventually kicked out of the family at 15. I couldn't hate. I could only feel shame. This person who opened my eyes, became a good friend in the country I now call home.
Nope, never hit on me. Nope doesn't try to sneak in the bathroom with my daughter, nope doesn't get all weepy eyed at the drop of a hat. She is just a good person and a good friend.
I am sad for you that you will likely never allow yourself such a reward.
Tried to rep you, but have given too much out, so I'll give the post a 👍
Thank you.
One thing I have learned in my 56 and 1/2 years is that to hate is easy. Very easy in fact. It's hard to work past a personal bias or belief. It's hard to get past a life long belief or value system.
I hope some day I won't feel uncomfortable in public with my friends, they forgive me for it. hahaha
What do they do? They visit me at my house or invite me to theirs. Once again they are the ones that have to compromise.
To be fair I actually loaned her the money for a down payment to buy a small house. Call it buying good karma. She paid me back in 6 months. She is friends with my daughter and I guess like a daughter to me too now. She calls me if things need fixed. I think she just wants me to feel useful. hahaha.
Ill never understand how I hated people so much when I didn't even know them.
That's what I've tried to explain earlier, for someone who has fully transitioned, you wouldn't even know to look at them, unless you knew them from beforehand.
But these anti-trans people think they can tell just from looking at them who's trans or not
Isn't that the truth.
I have literally had friends from the states visit me here. They never knew and some of them are hard core homophobes. Sitting across the table from my friend and flirting . It was all I could do, to not break out laughing.
Afterward when everyone went home, sitting out on my patio my buddy says "Damn you are lucky, hot wife and friends who are 10s. Which ones have you had?"
I answer "none, I told you they are my daughters to me. Besides I am married and I am not into transgender girls."
The beer gets spit out and the stuttering follows. accusations of lying, then betrayals. LOL. Then they say "holy sheet I never would have guessed. So did she have all the surgery?" hahaha Now why would they want to know that?
You call it hurtful, others call it honest. Why should we change what we know to be true and act irrationally to satisfy the delusional ranting of another? Are they not adults and able to handle reality?
My statement is not bigoted not intolerant, just a simple facts. A guy will always be a guy, a girl always a girl, until science can change DNA.
I have zero care what a person calls themselves, I however will call them by what they are.
Thanks for the reminder. Whenever an LGBT hating "Christian" gloats about how moral and caring they are, I'll inform them they aren't a Christian either.
You call it hurtful, others call it honest. Why should we change what we know to be true and act irrationally to satisfy the delusional ranting of another? Are they not adults and able to handle reality?
Why do you vilify those who speak the truth?
There has been a steady indoctrination that *truth* is hurtful.
And a lot of people who are so proud of their tolerance, hip and trendy coolness, jump on the progressive bandwagon excited to embrace championing anyone who they *think* is being wronged by sheer observation and truth. They have been conditioned to believe that truth is to be avoided at all costs. It's the foundation of the *shaming* movement. Shaming people for pointing out objective observations and facts.
And the movement keeps reinforcing that truth is no longer truth, but hate speech.
We all must believe the same. We all must believe the same. We all must believe the same.
And they are BEYOND clueless as to what is going on around them ... but they fully believe they are the only *smart* ones in the room.
Wait till pedophelia is normalized. That's been in the pipeline for a few years. And it's the next step. And they WILL embrace it.
Plenty of people take lifelong medication to keep themselves healthy, such as thyroid hormone replacement
Do you have a source that shows that all transgender people take antidepressants and anxiolytics, much less for a lifetime?
Do you have a source that shows all transgender people have "decades of psychotherapy and psychgatric care"?
Not all transgender people have surgery. Many do not.
Most people these days have a team of medical professionals, particularly as they age. Does that mean they are mentally ill?
Do you know why? Because they are ill and are treating that illness. Should we deny those people treatment and just pretend that they are well? Should we help them pretend that they don't have a problem and work with them to reinforce that delusion?
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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You call it hurtful, others call it honest. Why should we change what we know to be true and act irrationally to satisfy the delusional ranting of another? Are they not adults and able to handle reality?
Why do you vilify those who speak the truth?
Why shouldn't I, you guys are purposely being @$s#0/es.
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