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Old 06-15-2019, 02:30 PM
 
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Hillary Clinton received intel AND cash from Russia. FACTS
Not if you have no links to back up your conspiracy theories.

But that has nothing to do with my post, so ... post fail.
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Old 06-15-2019, 05:02 PM
 
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Any reason this is still a sticky? Other than to give libs false hope?
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Old 06-15-2019, 06:27 PM
 
Location: Boston
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keep it up, people are healing, hopes were shattered, but it's a slow process and many are still in the denial stage. Give them time .. plus it's fun to read.
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Old 06-16-2019, 12:45 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas & San Diego
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Not if you have no links to back up your conspiracy theories.

But that has nothing to do with my post, so ... post fail.
Might want to back up your info on "each scandal and outrage of Trump and his sycophantic collaborators" with links that are not just conspiracy theories. Looking for facts (Actual data) and not opinions. Your post appears to be opinion and does not have any credible sources linked for backing it up - your post is a failure without sourcing.

Clinton issues with foreign payments as a candidate and obtaining info from Russian sources during the campaign are factual. Clinton speaking fees and foundation donations (payments) as well as Source of Steele report (Info) have been reported many times. Just a sampling of the links and info (BTW these are not right wing sources) to back this up

https://www.usnews.com/news/articles...-speaking-fees

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/problem...oreign-donors/

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/u...pany.html?_r=0

From NBC News:

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When Trump became the Republican nominee, the Clinton campaign and the Democratic Party began picking up the tab for the Fusion research. Fusion owner Glenn Simpson hired Steele, a Russia expert, to gather information from his sources in Russia.

Steele’s sources told him the Russian government was working with Trump to try to help him beat Clinton, including providing hacked emails. That unproven allegation is among those being investigated by special counsel Robert Mueller.
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Old 06-16-2019, 05:29 AM
 
Location: Homeless
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Hillary Clinton received intel AND cash from Russia. FACTS
If true she’s just as guilty Trump and BOTH need to go to jail. But I’m willing to bet your okay with Trump getting away with it.
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Old 06-16-2019, 06:19 AM
 
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I'm also willing to bet that she paid an American company for the information and the money from Russia did not go into her campaign fund.

I'm also willing to bet that if she had accepted cash from Putin for her campaign or had accepted free campaign help from Putin, that the Republicans would be on that like a duck on a June bug instead of just spreading lies around.
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Old 06-16-2019, 07:23 AM
 
Location: Boston
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impeachment hearings next week?
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Old 06-16-2019, 11:07 AM
 
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Clinton issues with foreign payments as a candidate and obtaining info from Russian sources during the campaign are factual. Clinton speaking fees and foundation donations (payments) as well as Source of Steele report (Info) have been reported many times. Just a sampling of the links and info (BTW these are not right wing sources) to back this up

https://www.usnews.com/news/articles...-speaking-fees

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/problem...oreign-donors/

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/u...pany.html?_r=0

From NBC News:
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When Trump became the Republican nominee, the Clinton campaign and the Democratic Party began picking up the tab for the Fusion research. Fusion owner Glenn Simpson hired Steele, a Russia expert, to gather information from his sources in Russia.

Steele’s sources told him the Russian government was working with Trump to try to help him beat Clinton, including providing hacked emails. That unproven allegation is among those being investigated by special counsel Robert Mueller.
Do you even understand what you posted here?

Money from speakers fees, unsolicited donations to a charity and opposition research paid to a company Fusion GPS:
"Fusion GPS is a commercial research and strategic intelligence firm based in Washington, D.C."

The Clinton campaign paid the research firm out of it's own funds, legally donated to the campaign and duly reported as required by law.

The MASSIVE assistance of the Russian government was not paid for by the Trump campaign, it was offered to them, freely, for Russia's own reasons ... and the Trump campaign eagerly accepted the Russian government's help without regard for our election laws nor our nations internal security.

"British-born Goldstone adds in the exchange of 3 June 2016: “This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government’s support for Mr Trump.”

Seventeen minutes later, Trump Jr welcomes this with the reply: “If it’s what you say, I love it, especially later in the summer.” "

Later in the summer, Trump senior stated (in a way totally different than his normal speech pattern), in measured monotone ... he had to break the cadence of his normal speaking to get it right, as if rehearsed (listen to it yourself) "Russia-, if- you're- listening- I- hope- you're- able- to- find- the- 30,000 emails- that- are- missing. I- think- you- will- probably- be- rewarded- mightily ... by our press."
Donald J. Trump July 27, 2016

Strangely, he earlier mentioned Russia (first) or China or anybody else, but when he uttered the key phrase he stopped, looked at the cameras directly, and said RUSSIA.

Of course we all know that this measured and rehearsed statement launched the attack that night.

"Blessent mon cœur d'une langueur monotone"
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Old 06-16-2019, 07:38 PM
 
Location: Boston
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Originally Posted by Hesychios View Post
Do you even understand what you posted here?

Money from speakers fees, unsolicited donations to a charity and opposition research paid to a company Fusion GPS:
"Fusion GPS is a commercial research and strategic intelligence firm based in Washington, D.C."

The Clinton campaign paid the research firm out of it's own funds, legally donated to the campaign and duly reported as required by law.

The MASSIVE assistance of the Russian government was not paid for by the Trump campaign, it was offered to them, freely, for Russia's own reasons ... and the Trump campaign eagerly accepted the Russian government's help without regard for our election laws nor our nations internal security.

"British-born Goldstone adds in the exchange of 3 June 2016: “This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government’s support for Mr Trump.”

Seventeen minutes later, Trump Jr welcomes this with the reply: “If it’s what you say, I love it, especially later in the summer.” "

Later in the summer, Trump senior stated (in a way totally different than his normal speech pattern), in measured monotone ... he had to break the cadence of his normal speaking to get it right, as if rehearsed (
listen to it yourself) "Russia-, if- you're- listening- I- hope- you're- able- to- find- the- 30,000 emails- that- are- missing. I- think- you- will- probably- be- rewarded- mightily ... by our press."
Donald J. Trump July 27, 2016

Strangely, he earlier mentioned Russia (first) or China or anybody else, but when he uttered the key phrase he stopped, looked at the cameras directly, and said RUSSIA.

Of course we all know that this measured and rehearsed statement launched the attack that night.

"Blessent mon cœur d'une langueur monotone"
sounds like Trump is dirty huh?

you guys should impeach him...
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Old 06-16-2019, 07:39 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas & San Diego
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Originally Posted by Hesychios View Post
Do you even understand what you posted here?

Money from speakers fees, unsolicited donations to a charity and opposition research paid to a company Fusion GPS:
"Fusion GPS is a commercial research and strategic intelligence firm based in Washington, D.C."

The Clinton campaign paid the research firm out of it's own funds, legally donated to the campaign and duly reported as required by law.

The MASSIVE assistance of the Russian government was not paid for by the Trump campaign, it was offered to them, freely, for Russia's own reasons ... and the Trump campaign eagerly accepted the Russian government's help without regard for our election laws nor our nations internal security.

"British-born Goldstone adds in the exchange of 3 June 2016: “This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government’s support for Mr Trump.”

Seventeen minutes later, Trump Jr welcomes this with the reply: “If it’s what you say, I love it, especially later in the summer.” "

Later in the summer, Trump senior stated (in a way totally different than his normal speech pattern), in measured monotone ... he had to break the cadence of his normal speaking to get it right, as if rehearsed

Strangely, he earlier mentioned Russia (first) or China or anybody else, but when he uttered the key phrase he stopped, looked at the cameras directly, and said RUSSIA.

Of course we all know that this measured and rehearsed statement launched the attack that night.
Do you not understand what is fact and what is opinion - Clinton failed to report over $20M in foreign donations as required from link I provided - not duly reported. Clinton PAID for Russia information, Trump did not - all facts that I provided sources for.

And the characterization of the "eagerly" and "response rehearsed" is all opinion and not facts. Try again.

The Goldstone meeting was all false promises with no laws reported broken that happened almost 3 years ago and was investigated by Mueller and congress - Fact - IDK why you think that is a smoking gun.

From thehill.com

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Special counsel Robert Mueller said in his highly anticipated report that Russia sought to help President Trump win the 2016 presidential election, but that the Trump campaign did not directly assist in that process.
The "MASSIVE" assistance Russia provided Trump is completely bunk according to reports. The Russia agency spent $46k according to Facebook: https://techcrunch.com/2017/11/01/ru...book-ad-spend/

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Russian information troll farm the Internet Research Agency spent just 0.05 percent as much on Facebook ads as Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump’s campaigns combined in the run-up to the 2016 U.S. presidential election, yet still reached a massive audience. While there might have been other Russian disinformation groups, the IRA spent $46,000 on pre-election day Facebook ads compared to $81 million spent by Clinton and Trump together, discluding political action committees who could have spent even more than that on the campaigns’ behalf.

Facebook general counsel Colin Stretch revealed these figures today during the Senate Intelligence Committee’s hearing with Facebook, Twitter and Google about Russian election interference.
Without counting PACs, the top campaigns spent 1,760X more on election ads than one group of Russian meddlers puts the situation into context. The IRA ad buy was small by comparison. This aligns with Stretch’s main talking point that Russian propaganda content was a tiny fraction of the content and ads seen on Facebook. This revelation could put more focus on organically posted propaganda.
The adds were not as pro Trump / anti Clinton as many believe, they were designed to create discord. From politico.com https://www.politico.com/story/2017/...s-stein-243172

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...advertisements paid for by shadowy Russian buyers criticized Hillary Clinton and promoted Donald Trump. Some backed Bernie Sanders and his platform even after his presidential campaign had ended, according to a person with knowledge of the ads.

The ads show a complicated effort that didn’t necessarily hew to promoting Trump and bashing Clinton. Instead, they show a desire to create divisions while sometimes praising Trump, Sanders and Stein. A number of the ads seemed to question Clinton’s authenticity and tout some of the liberal criticisms of her candidacy.

There is no indication Stein, Sanders or Trump was aware of the advertisements, which were described to POLITICO by people with knowledge of them.

Facebook declined to comment on the specifics of the advertisements but noted a previous statement: “The vast majority of ads run by these accounts didn’t specifically reference the U.S. presidential election or voting for a particular candidate. Rather, the ads and accounts appeared to focus on amplifying divisive social and political messages across the ideological spectrum — touching on topics from LGBT matters to race issues to immigration to gun rights.”
The foreign interference continued AGAINST Trump after election, according to Facebook; https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ked-posts.html

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The tech giant Facebook told Congress that ads representing 'foreign interference' in America's election system continued after Donald Trump won the White House – and appeared designed to hurt him.

Much of the focus on Russian involvement has come as part of a larger story that suggests Moscow instead sought to help Trump win the White House over Hillary Clinton.

But Facebook General Counsel Colin Stretch said in a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing that while his company first spotted the ads in the presidential primary season two years ago, they continued to run 'following the election.'

'We saw this concerted effort to sow division and discord,' Stretch explained. 'In the wake of the election – and now-President Trump's election – we saw a lot of activity targeted at fomenting discord about the validity of his election.'

The ads 'continued until we disabled the accounts,' he said.
Try again with facts, not opinions - you provided nothing factual that supports your position.
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