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Old 05-30-2019, 10:20 AM
 
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Let's say there was clear fraudulent behavior in terms of FISA abuses, communication saying "We're going to get trump no matter what it takes" type stuff that comes out in the IG Report, and subsequent arrests to the perpetrators, and thus Trump really looks like the innocent victim.

Basically the equivalent of someone that the cops planted drugs and a murder weapon, then accused that person of obstructing when they tried to pin the crime against him. Would you actually be open-minded to see what is going on? And potentially shift the view of the current "he's guilty, Impeach" type mantra?
If that's the case, it should come out. Let's get everything out in the open. I've always said that.
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Old 05-30-2019, 10:21 AM
 
Location: FL
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Notice that Mueller thanked all law enforcement that worked on the case. He did not thank Barr. Barr mischaracterized his work and refused to release the Mueller Report executive summaries.
I noticed that.
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Old 05-30-2019, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Boston
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Yeahyeah, everything is Obama's fault. Thanks, Obama! But that doesn't change the fact that an illegitimately elected national security threat occupies the oval office, and according to Mueller, can't be indicted simply because he's president.
you can pooh pooh it all you want but Obama was made aware of this as far back as 2014, he knew and allowed it to happen. He was the President when this occurred, the buck stops with him except for partisan hacks.
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Old 05-30-2019, 10:24 AM
 
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Yeahyeah, everything is Obama's fault. Thanks, Obama! But that doesn't change the fact that an illegitimately elected national security threat occupies the oval office, and according to Mueller, can't be indicted simply because he's president.
Can't indict? Then why the hell did he investigate, spending tax payer money for over 2 years?
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Old 05-30-2019, 10:25 AM
 
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Can't indict? Then why the hell did he investigate, spending tax payer money for over 2 years?
Because the DOJ regulations prevent it, so he says. I've heard opinions to the contrary and personally think he should have done it anyway. Nonetheless, he is sending it over to Congress who has the Constitutional authority to do so.
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Old 05-30-2019, 10:29 AM
 
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Because the DOJ regulations prevent it, so he says. I've heard opinions to the contrary and personally think he should have done it anyway. Nonetheless, he is sending it over to Congress who has the Constitutional authority to do so.
He didn't find anything to advise indictment so based on what? Does congress think that they can find something when top investigators couldn't?

More investigating and nothing getting done?
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Old 05-30-2019, 10:33 AM
 
Location: Mount Airy, Maryland
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I really don't know what the right course of action is, my lean has always been not to impeach as that will only increase the divide and go nowhere with a GOP Senate. And I don't really see any grounds for impeachment.

With that said Mueller's comment clearly showed Trump and Barr were full of crap when they claimed the report was a complete exoneration. The words "If we found the president did not commit a crime, we would have said so" are pretty clear and not open to interpretation.
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Old 05-30-2019, 10:33 AM
 
Location: Boston
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He didn't find anything to advise indictment so based on what? Does congress think that they can find something when top investigators couldn't?

More investigating and nothing getting done?
why sure, those 25 year olds working their first jobs out of college in the members offices can certainly uncover facts that 40 FBI agents couldn't.
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Old 05-30-2019, 10:36 AM
 
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why sure, those 25 year olds working their first jobs out of college in the members offices can certainly uncover facts that 40 FBI agents couldn't.
LOL, then all 40 FBI agents need to be fired and make way for cheaper labor that will find something experienced FBI agents didn't.

Geez, more of this crap and nothing getting done?
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Old 05-30-2019, 10:40 AM
 
Location: DFW
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So, here's what I took from Mueller's appearance yesterday: Russia helped Trump get elected, but now, because he has been elected, he can't be indicted. Yep, that's fair. But tell me again how no one is above the law.
LOL... Call Hillary and ask her about the 33,000 emails that were scrubbed while under a subpoena.

She can tell you all about being way above the law. Her and Bill have been for decades.
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