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This baby is leaving the hospital at 5 lbs while being born premature.
Anyone claiming that at 23 weeks the “fetus” is not a human, is again proven wrong. Unless the baby is sick, the baby is a human being with a brain, heart, other organs, and proven to be able to live.
How can it be right to kill a human while an animal that is premature born, and killed is called “animal abuse!
So at 24 weeks pregnant, the mother can start collecting child support? At 24 weeks, if she's an illegal alien, you can't deport the mother because she's carrying a US Citizen? At 24 weeks the mother can insure the child so if she ends up miscarrying, she can collect?
I'm also curious how you feel about social safety nets for people that are going to essentially have forced birth based on your ideals. Or is this another case of NGAF after the baby is born. A child not fed, not educated, not housed - is not pro-life ... You want / support tax money going to those things?
Just asking, because most the time, people with this POV end up being pro forced birth, not pro-life
So at 24 weeks pregnant, the mother can start collecting child support? At 24 weeks, if she's an illegal alien, you can't deport the mother because she's carrying a US Citizen? At 24 weeks the mother can insure the child so if she ends up miscarrying, she can collect?
I'm also curious how you feel about social safety nets for people that are going to essentially have forced birth based on your ideals. Or is this another case of NGAF after the baby is born. A child not fed, not educated, not housed - is not pro-life ... You want / support tax money going to those things?
Just asking, because most the time, people with this POV end up being pro forced birth, not pro-life
Maybe you should ask all the good people who adopt babies that other people don’t want. Couples who want a baby and can’t get them due to health related issues and are willing to care for the child. Many people adopt from abroad, and some, may have preferred to adopt and help a pregnant woman in the US who doesn’t want her baby.
Maybe you should ask why approx 90%-95% of all abortions, are elective chosen abortions and not medical related, rape or insect cases.
Please think about, why these women and of course since most liberals see everyone as equals or want to make everyone equal, why did these men and women not try to use a rubber or birth control?
Your answer will probably that birth control doesn’t always work and rubbers can break, but that cant be that high percentage.
Maybe you should ask all the good people who adopt babies that other people don’t want. Couples who want a baby and can’t get them due to health related issues and are willing to care for the child. Many people adopt from abroad, and some, may have preferred to adopt and help a pregnant woman in the US who doesn’t want her baby.
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Ah, well, there you have it. With 100,000+ children (& young adults - some of these kids have been in & out of adoptions, placements, & Divisions of Families & Children several times) in the US awaiting adoption, it must be that there's a shortage of good people in the US. Who'd've thunk, hm?
Apparently adoptive parents can be fairly picky about who they want, & the children of drug &/or alcohol addicts are particularly hard to place. It's not the kid's fault - but if they were exposed to highly addictive drugs while in utero, it vastly complicates their possible placement in a permanent home.
Do OBGYNs ask their pregnant patients if they want an abortion?
Is this part of regular OBGYN "care"?
Of course not. But, if a woman wants an abortion, a decent doctor recommends a clinic if they don't perform them.
Also, a good doctor does not judge. A good doctor also saves a pregnant woman's life with an early termination if her life is at risk. Because the PREGNANT WOMAN is the OB-GYN's patient. The only time the baby is actually the patient is during delivery and immediately after. From that point on, the baby that is delivered becomes the pediatrician's patient.
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Do OB-GYNs do an ultrasound in one room of a baby, congratulate the new mom, then go into another room with a different patient and kill a baby that is the same gestation age, telling the mother that it's just a clump of cells?
Typically, ultrasounds for women who are pregnant and happy about it are generally met with a show of congratulations on the part of the attending physician, yes.
And, typically, ultrasounds for women who are pregnant and NOT happy about it, or who are pregnant and carrying a fetus that is not thriving, dying, or already dead aren't happy occasions and physicians with any sort of decent bedside manner offer condolences, concern, and options.
I'm surprised you could not suss that out for yourself.
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Maybe you should ask all the good people who adopt babies that other people don’t want. Couples who want a baby and can’t get them due to health related issues and are willing to care for the child. Many people adopt from abroad, and some, may have preferred to adopt and help a pregnant woman in the US who doesn’t want her baby.
Maybe you should ask why approx 90%-95% of all abortions, are elective chosen abortions and not medical related, rape or insect cases.
Please think about, why these women and of course since most liberals see everyone as equals or want to make everyone equal, why did these men and women not try to use a rubber or birth control?
Your answer will probably that birth control doesn’t always work and rubbers can break, but that cant be that high percentage.
Hold up... you want to force a woman to carry a pregnancy for about 40 weeks so she can give someone else a baby?
What are we, brood mares?
What if the woman who is pregnant is forced to carry to delivery, then sees the baby who is born and decides she has put a lot of work into carrying it so she wants to keep it?
She and the baby can die in a ditch because "no support for welfare moms!" or something?
Cannot have it both ways.
Either you are pro LIFE or you are not.
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Ah, well, there you have it. With 100,000+ children (& young adults - some of these kids have been in & out of adoptions, placements, & Divisions of Families & Children several times) in the US awaiting adoption, it must be that there's a shortage of good people in the US. Who'd've thunk, hm?
Apparently adoptive parents can be fairly picky about who they want, & the children of drug &/or alcohol addicts are particularly hard to place. It's not the kid's fault - but if they were exposed to highly addictive drugs while in utero, it vastly complicates their possible placement in a permanent home.
A lot of this forced birth stuff is designed to try to force more white women to produce offspring that will wind up in the system and increase the number that are born to moms who don't do drugs, really.
Most of the kids who are babies in the system are nonwhite and/or born to moms with drug problems.
And, people don't want to adopt older kids.
So, yeah... "pro life" and all.
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