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Old 05-30-2019, 11:37 AM
 
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Well if it's our own government, they just shut down access to ammunition.
I have yet to see where prohibition to anything that's desirable hasn't caused a prolific black market.

Besides, there are already trillions of rounds spread among all the gun owners in the country.
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Old 05-30-2019, 11:38 AM
 
Location: San Jose
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Well if it's our own government, they just shut down access to ammunition.
Exactly, there are a rather small group of ammunition manufactures in this country and it wouldn't take long to either have them shut down or relocated to a region under governmental control. The only other option is weapons supply from a foreign power. Can't see any current nation partaking in supplying weapons to a bunch of American rebels.
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Old 05-30-2019, 11:41 AM
 
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Exactly, there are a rather small group of ammunition manufactures in this country and it wouldn't take long to either have them shut down or relocated to a region under governmental control. The only other option is weapons supply from a foreign power. Can't see any current nation partaking in supplying weapons to a bunch of American rebels.
So not only do you underestimate the power of American resolve, you also underestimate the ability of Americans to improvise. Got it.

Your last statement reveals how anti-American you are. That clears up your posts tremendously. Thank you.
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Old 05-30-2019, 11:43 AM
 
Location: San Jose
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So not only do you underestimate the power of American resolve, you also underestimate the ability of Americans to improvise. Got it.
Where would you get your ammo from? Where would you get your parts from?
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Old 05-30-2019, 11:46 AM
 
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Where would you get your ammo from? Where would you get your parts from?
If you have to ask, then there's no point in answering. Americans are much more innovative than you think, especially if they have a cause that's motivating them.

WHOOSH! I already know that answer went right over your head.
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Old 05-30-2019, 11:47 AM
 
Location: San Jose
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your last statement reveals how anti-american you are. That clears up your posts tremendously. Thank you.
Not sure how you came to that conclusion based on my last sentence but whatever...
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Old 05-30-2019, 11:48 AM
 
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I recommend for many of your mental health you get a new hobby. Fantasizing about fighting off the big bad government or the evil liberal antifa swarming your falling down POS house in Ohio with your mini arsenal is really a waste of time.
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Old 05-30-2019, 11:49 AM
 
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I recommend for many of your mental health you get a new hobby. Fantasizing about fighting off the big bad government or the evil liberal antifa swarming your falling down POS house in Ohio with your mini arsenal is really a waste of time.
I agree. Fortunately, that is not what we are discussing here.
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Old 05-30-2019, 11:49 AM
 
Location: Itinerant
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In both cases you just mentioned Afghanistan and Vietnam. The rebel forces received ample logistic support for outside powers. Not to mention the fact that both the Viet Cong and the Taliban had a structural military and political hierarchy, tactical and strategic goals, cohesive ideology, and willingness to die for their cause.

A bunch of random American hunters spread over a huge nation, with a wide variety of weapons, no logistical foreign support, no political or military structure, no strategic or tactical objectives would be of any use against the American military is comically absurd.
It's really not.

Look what do we have, say a low estimate of 15M people who hunt and 100M gun owners, and a front line military of around 400k (because typically 1/3 are front line to 2/3 support and logistics).

So you're telling me that the US military front line troops (the actual tip of the spear) with bang-bangs and target identification, to avoid civilian casualties are going to achieve up to 250:1 kill ratios? Ok even Delta and SEALs don't count on that, and those front lines aren't all Delta or SEALs, in fact the numbers of those are are insignificant, most typical infantry (not elite like Rangers or SF) would be lucky to achieve 10:1 limited to rifles and needing to identify their targets in urban areas.

The only reason the Viet Cong needed logistical support was that they were disarmed, and they lived in a relatively rural country. There are 300M known firearms in the US, there are billions of rounds of ammunition, and done right you can't use heavy weapons, how many Tuy Bo Incidents would it take before the US Government collapses? I'd put money on 1, probably with much lower body count. Advantage the USGov had in Vietnam was they weren't accidentally killing their own electorate.

You think a bunch of American Insurgence forced into action by what are considered by them to be intolerable acts are not going to have hierarchy, political and strategic goals, a cohesive ideology, nor willingness to die for their cause? Dude someone set themselves on fire at the Whitehouse yesterday, in protest I presume, there are far more willing to kill for their cause than die, all you need is to give them the chance to do that, and wars were never won by dying for your cause, but making your enemies die for theirs.
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Old 05-30-2019, 11:51 AM
 
Location: San Jose
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If you have to ask, then there's no point in answering. Americans are much more innovative than you think, especially if they have a cause that's motivating them.

WHOOSH! I already know that answer went right over your head.
You aren't answering because you don't know that answer to the question. Where would you get the ammunition you need to maintain a militia war against the US government? You think you could make your own? haha
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