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Old 07-20-2019, 12:29 PM
 
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Again, Trump only cares about the ultra rich & the big businesses. Most people in the Midwest have more in common with a cow than they do with some 1%er who was freely handed everything in life, & lives in a Manhattan apartment/mansion rubbing elbows with the uber rich.
Tell us which Democrat they identify with more than Trump?


There's your problem. You can make up all kinds of BS about Trump as to why nobody would ever vote for him, but you have that one basic problem.
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Old 07-20-2019, 12:33 PM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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When a political party puts the needs of illegal immigrants over the welfare of the citizens they were elected to represent, it's hard to see how they are in a winning position.

There are plenty of Americans who support Trump's policies but aren't as vocal about it because they don't want to deal with the insane backlash. Hopefully they will flock to the polls next November.
Well put. It's not only that they put illegal aliens over citizens, but their other policies all pander to various identity groups that work to further divide us. It is just criminal, and wildly counterproductive to the needs of most Americans.
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Old 07-20-2019, 12:41 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Tell us which Democrat they identify with more than Trump?


There's your problem. You can make up all kinds of BS about Trump as to why nobody would ever vote for him, but you have that one basic problem.

Obama was well liked by the middle-class in Wisconsin. He gave a lot of aid for agriculture as well as to farmers to help struggling farmers out. Trumps trade policies specifically hurt farmers. We've had record numbers of farms shut down under Trump

What's made up? So you don't believe facts? Gotcha. Well worth my time on here.
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Old 07-20-2019, 01:07 PM
 
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Recent poll had him down 11% versus Biden in PA. Sure, he was polling 3-5% down versus Hillary in the Rust Belt and won it by 2-3%, fewer voters than can fit in an average football stadium from 4 states combined, and polling data could be off again in 2020, but it would have to be off by a large factor.

You can't really compare Trump to Obama, Bush II or Clinton, who won 2nd terms without too much trouble.

Clinton was completely bipartisan, could get the party-line Democrats plus the Republicans who controlled a Congress that got along with Clinton. He won in a landslide.

Bush was still riding his 80%+ approval rating from Afghanistan and Iraq, neither of which had become onpopular yet.

Obama had 97% of Black vote in large quantities in swing states plus enough of the rest of his voting block. Republicans didn't have an exciting candidate who could rise as leader. Union bosses in the Rust Belt said vote Obama again.

Trump? Clearly he's the leader of a new Republican party brand that he created. But, how much of his brand was his running against Crooked Hillary? I think a lot. He can't run on his brand anymore.
Have another shot of Hillaries Best Kool-Aid..........
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Old 07-20-2019, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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All the dems have to do is replay audio clips on commercials of Trumps fan base chanting "send her back." That alone should seal it.

Except that the woman has a 9% approval rating. Many people agree with the chant.

The dems should focus on how little Trump has done for the common man in middle America. It's pretty clear he doesn't care about anyone except the big businesses & 1%.

Yes, all those 20,000 people at his rallies sure look like the 1% to me.

The dems appeal has always been they actually care about the ILLEGAL little man.
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Old 07-20-2019, 02:39 PM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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Spot on. This is what occurs when one lets anti-Semites and other anarchists take our the DNC.

Yep. The Democrats are plumb scary right now. Reps like Pelosi who I always thought is as daffy as they come are even scared by what is happening in the party and are trying to get the reins they dropped back in their hands. But that horse ain't cooperating.


The Dems are sitting on a serious runaway bronc right now and they don't have the deep seat and faraway look It's going to take to rein the critter in. LOL it paints a picture.
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Old 07-20-2019, 02:52 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Gilead
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Yep. The Democrats are plumb scary right now. Reps like Pelosi who I always thought is as daffy as they come are even scared by what is happening in the party and are trying to get the reins they dropped back in their hands. But that horse ain't cooperating.
They've been that way since Bill Clinton though, haven't they not? That adulterous, draft-dodging, dope smoking President who disgraced the Oval Office by allowing Monica Lewinsky to perform a sexual favor?
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Old 07-20-2019, 06:04 PM
 
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Trump will be going from the White House to the jailhouse in 2020.

Let us not forget those closed mouth republicans who said nothing while Comrade Trump trashed our Constitution. Or when Chairman Trump placed the words of Vladimir Putin and Kim Jong Un above the evidence presented to him by US intelligence agencies and was defended by the majority of republican elects.
When Trump is finally behind bars it will be time to clear our government of republican politicians who placed party over country. Let's vote those republicans out of office.
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Old 07-20-2019, 06:16 PM
 
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Recent poll had him down 11% versus Biden in PA. Sure, he was polling 3-5% down versus Hillary in the Rust Belt and won it by 2-3%, fewer voters than can fit in an average football stadium from 4 states combined, and polling data could be off again in 2020, but it would have to be off by a large factor.

You can't really compare Trump to Obama, Bush II or Clinton, who won 2nd terms without too much trouble.

Clinton was completely bipartisan, could get the party-line Democrats plus the Republicans who controlled a Congress that got along with Clinton. He won in a landslide.

Bush was still riding his 80%+ approval rating from Afghanistan and Iraq, neither of which had become onpopular yet.

Obama had 97% of Black vote in large quantities in swing states plus enough of the rest of his voting block. Republicans didn't have an exciting candidate who could rise as leader. Union bosses in the Rust Belt said vote Obama again.

Trump? Clearly he's the leader of a new Republican party brand that he created. But, how much of his brand was his running against Crooked Hillary? I think a lot. He can't run on his brand anymore.
Only in the minds of liberals.

AOC and Omar now control the dem party and it is the party if open borders, socialism, and radical Islam.

Good luck with that platform!
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Old 07-20-2019, 06:42 PM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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They've been that way since Bill Clinton though, haven't they not? That adulterous, draft-dodging, dope smoking President who disgraced the Oval Office by allowing Monica Lewinsky to perform a sexual favor?

I'll agree with that. Obama wasn't exactly my favorite either. And now congress has become infected with this runaway virus that is threatening to kill our country. I foresee some...serious disagreement..happening if they do actually get power in DC. If they do it will happen via very dirty dealings.
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