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Old 06-10-2019, 04:00 AM
 
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Strzok wrote the memo for DOJ to reopen the Clinton investigation a few weeks before the Election, he should be kicked out oof the Deep State.

So which laws did he break besides using a government cell phone for personal use and having a political opinion, sure those high crimes deserve prosecution.
Strzok has stated that his activities as head of the russia investigation were reported daily to the obama white house....and the IG report faulted him as so biased he showed a willingness to take official action to harm trumps candidacy. Then theres the texts to page.

Daily reports to obama.. seems highly unusual if it wasnt political spying. Willing to take official action implies actions to harm trump would have approval above him.
Its clear Strzok was acting as Obama and Comeys henchman to prevent a candidate bent on disrupting the status quo.
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Old 06-10-2019, 05:58 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Strzok has stated that his activities as head of the russia investigation were reported daily to the obama white house....and the IG report faulted him as so biased he showed a willingness to take official action to harm trumps candidacy. Then theres the texts to page.

Daily reports to obama.. seems highly unusual if it wasnt political spying. Willing to take official action implies actions to harm trump would have approval above him.
Its clear Strzok was acting as Obama and Comeys henchman to prevent a candidate bent on disrupting the status quo.
I would expect the president to be kept in the loop on the Russian investigation as it was of course important since our election was in jeopardy. Do you have the exact statement in the IG report because as far as I know there was no action on his part, just the one test message. He was fired for using his government phone and embarrassing the agency, nothing else.
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Old 06-10-2019, 06:14 AM
 
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Who exactly is Bill Mitchell?

Seems to me if the DOJ had something on Strzok they would charge him and use that as leverage on getting him to flip and cooperate. That seems to be the way the feds do things.

It is amazing how the conspiracy theory crowd keeps hope going. You get handed a serious defeat yet somehow try to turn it into a possible future victory which in turn will also end in disappointment with some off the wall silver lining to cling on to. And so on and so on.
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Old 06-10-2019, 07:31 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Oh look, nothing to offer on the OP.

Deflection is true, haha!
Oh look, nothing to counter what I said.

Deflection is true, haha! And your following post exposes that deflection

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Can't leave out the team in Hawaii still working on Obamas birth certificate!
Complaining about deflection while doing it, hahahahaha

Strzock is nothing more than a cheap dime store hood who didn't come through for the Clinton crime family.
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Old 06-10-2019, 09:31 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Did you read the report? It's obvious you didn't read it.



Yes I did. What Mueller is calling Russians, are State Dept & CIA Operatives, that have worked with the USA for decades.




A new report reveals not only that key Russiagate figure Konstantin Kilimnik was not a so-called Russian government agent, but that he was in fact a US State Department source. And, Special Counsel Robert Mueller's team knew about this for more than the past year. Hundreds of pages of government documents — which special counsel Robert Mueller possessed since 2018 — describe Kilimnik as a “sensitive†intelligence source for the U.S. State Department who informed on Ukrainian and Russian matters.


https://thehill.com/opinion/white-ho...ate-department


What part are you being kept in the dark about?
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Old 06-10-2019, 09:35 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Who exactly is Bill Mitchell?

Seems to me if the DOJ had something on Strzok they would charge him and use that as leverage on getting him to flip and cooperate. That seems to be the way the feds do things.

It is amazing how the conspiracy theory crowd keeps hope going. You get handed a serious defeat yet somehow try to turn it into a possible future victory which in turn will also end in disappointment with some off the wall silver lining to cling on to. And so on and so on.



Threat do the same thing as actual action. Has Strzok flipped? He was reporting to Obama, according to his and Page text.
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Old 06-10-2019, 10:11 AM
 
Location: Toronto
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I would expect the president to be kept in the loop on the Russian investigation as it was of course important since our election was in jeopardy. Do you have the exact statement in the IG report because as far as I know there was no action on his part, just the one test message. He was fired for using his government phone and embarrassing the agency, nothing else.
You know, normal protocol is if there is an 'infiltration' attempt, you warn the candidate. But nope, Obama downplayed it and laughed it off. Can't have it both ways. They saw it as a opening to pin Trump with Russia, especially since he was openly nice to Russia. That was the insurance policy.

Obama couldn't care less about Hillary winning except part of the deal with her was not reverse his executive orders or Obamacare as that was his legacy that he cared about.

The IG Report will not say "yea, he said it and did it, and that was his intent".

it'll use soft language like "it appears there may have been influence for his actions that are consistent with the broad definition of political biasness. However, it is not apparently clear if it was unknowningly and intently driven by such views, but of those with general leanings that a reasonable individual(s) may perhaps have thought to perceive to be pursuing such matters of priority within the dictated and systematic system of rationale of such person".

People who don't see anything will say "hey, see, IG didn't say it directly so there's nothing there".

Flipside is "it should never have gotten to the point where an objective investigator has shown such apparent views of biasedness"

Now, to make it easier to see, street level crimes, if a cop is known to be racist, says stuff like "we're going to get this guy, we'll find a way.. put that thing there so it can be discovered as evidence". The case gets tossed out. The fact that Strozk was kicked to the curb from the Mueller team after it was known he was so biasedness is a sign it was tainted.

Strozk was disappointed that the case was being taken out of the FBI's hand and into Mueller. Strozk said to Page basically when the Special Counsel probe was started "that sucks, they're not going to find anything on Trump.. so I don't want to be on that team since there's nothing there and we can't scheme like we could have under Comey".

Just comical how this case could have kept going. Just remember, this same tactic may be used against your desired candidate. Maybe, it might against your child or grandchild one day.
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Old 06-10-2019, 04:22 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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You know, normal protocol is if there is an 'infiltration' attempt, you warn the candidate. But nope, Obama downplayed it and laughed it off. Can't have it both ways. They saw it as a opening to pin Trump with Russia, especially since he was openly nice to Russia. That was the insurance policy.

Obama couldn't care less about Hillary winning except part of the deal with her was not reverse his executive orders or Obamacare as that was his legacy that he cared about.

The IG Report will not say "yea, he said it and did it, and that was his intent".

it'll use soft language like "it appears there may have been influence for his actions that are consistent with the broad definition of political biasness. However, it is not apparently clear if it was unknowningly and intently driven by such views, but of those with general leanings that a reasonable individual(s) may perhaps have thought to perceive to be pursuing such matters of priority within the dictated and systematic system of rationale of such person".

People who don't see anything will say "hey, see, IG didn't say it directly so there's nothing there".

Flipside is "it should never have gotten to the point where an objective investigator has shown such apparent views of biasedness"

Now, to make it easier to see, street level crimes, if a cop is known to be racist, says stuff like "we're going to get this guy, we'll find a way.. put that thing there so it can be discovered as evidence". The case gets tossed out. The fact that Strozk was kicked to the curb from the Mueller team after it was known he was so biasedness is a sign it was tainted.

Strozk was disappointed that the case was being taken out of the FBI's hand and into Mueller. Strozk said to Page basically when the Special Counsel probe was started "that sucks, they're not going to find anything on Trump.. so I don't want to be on that team since there's nothing there and we can't scheme like we could have under Comey".

Just comical how this case could have kept going. Just remember, this same tactic may be used against your desired candidate. Maybe, it might against your child or grandchild one day.


The Trump campaign was briefed on the Russian interference in August 2016, it didn't matter anyway since they continued their extensive contacts with Russia. Trump didn't believe the intelligence agencies before and after the election so what's the point in telling a president about the Russians when he's asking them for Clintons emails. Besides his several of his campaign and cabinet continued to meet with the Russians even after he was warned so he didn't appear to worry much about "infiltration".


Strozk was taken off the investigation because of his emails so that there would be no perception of bias, there was no action on his part that would be an insurance policy. If you can point to something I would like to hear it otherwise there is nothing.


If the IG report made this statement I would like to see it, but I am not optimistic.
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