Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
China's progress = working as intended. Imagine what happens if you have a highly intelligent and hard working person and send him to the bottom of the totem pole, the result over the long run won't be too much different.
China steps in to give evolution a hand to eliminate the undesirables. Problem is the decision makers have evolved into herdsmen and advocate the culling of the unwanted.
1. East Asian IQ while high is based on rote learning and not creativity.
IQ scores, East Asian or otherwise, are a measure of the general factor of intelligence or "G" and have little or nothing to do with either rote learning or creativity.
1. Intelligence is a very general mental capability that, among other things, involves the ability to reason, plan, solve problems, think abstractly, comprehend complex ideas, learn quickly and learn from experience. It is not merely book learning, a narrow academic skill, or test-taking smarts. Rather, it reflects a broader and deeper capability for comprehending our surroundings--"catching on," "making sense" of things, or "figuring out" what to do.
2. Intelligence, so defined, can be measured, and intelligence tests measure it well. They are among the most accurate (in technical terms, reliable and valid) of all psychological tests and assessments. They do not measure creativity, character personality, or other important differences among individuals, nor are they intended to.
China's progress = working as intended. Imagine what happens if you have a highly intelligent and hard working person and send him to the bottom of the totem pole, the result over the long run won't be too much different.
I don't criticize the use of IQ, but I do question the use of this particular test to measure IQ. If you take the free IQ test on the website, you will see that it is all about identifying patterns in geometric shapes. So it's a good test of spatial abilities. I'm not sure that equates to intelligence. There may be some cultural factors that make people in certain countries more or less well-trained to spot spatial patterns, which is not indicative of innate intelligence.
I don't criticize the use of IQ, but I do question the use of this particular test to measure IQ. If you take the free IQ test on the website, you will see that it is all about identifying patterns in geometric shapes. So it's a good test of spatial abilities. I'm not sure that equates to intelligence.
Those types of IQ tests are as good at measuring "G" as any other.
Quote:
There may be some cultural factors that make people in certain countries more or less well-trained to spot spatial patterns, which is not indicative of innate intelligence.
Perhaps so. Intelligence may be mostly an innate quality, but IQ test are not aiming to measure only that component of it.
...yes and probably the most advanced civilization in the world from about A.D. 500 to 1500. China had bigger, better ships than the Spanish and Portuguese in 1492, but somehow lacked the desire to explore far away lands. History would have been very different if the Chinese were less complacent.
Why would they need to explore when everything they needed was right there in Asia?
Why would they need to explore when everything they needed was right there in Asia?
That's exactly what Chinese leaders at the time told themselves, wasn't it? But in hindsight what they actually needed was to get out into the world and mix it up with the rapidly developing European powers... keep up with them economically, technologically and militarily.
China is a house of cards waiting to tumble. You think our debt problem is bad? Their debt to gdp is estimated at 300%. 80% of their business which are essentially publicly owned are insolvent. They have the world’s largest malls, amusement parks, cities completely empty. They have the world’s oldest workforce and population because of the stupid one child policy. Top down government simply doesn’t work; the government can not allocate resources, innovate, improve quality of life as well as the market can.
That's exactly what Chinese leaders at the time told themselves, wasn't it? But in hindsight what they actually needed was to get out into the world and mix it up with the rapidly developing European powers... keep up with them economically, technologically and militarily.
At that time they were much more advanced then the European powers, so why would they feel the need to engage with Europe at all?
The reasons Europeans explored was to find better access to the Indian and Southeast Asian spice trade. Something China already had easy access too. The fact that China did not go out and explore the world wasn't due to a lack of competence as you are trying to suggest.
At that time they were much more advanced then the European powers, so why would they feel the need to engage with Europe at all?
The reasons Europeans explored was to find better access to the Indian and Southeast Asian spice trade. Something China already had easy access too. The fact that China did not go out and explore the world wasn't due to a lack of competence as you are trying to suggest.
I'm not suggesting that the right choices should have been obvious to them, just that in hindsight they would have been better off choosing a different course.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
