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Unlike you, Trump is accused of things he did not do such as collude with the Russians
He is accused of getting help from the Russians, with stolen material and giving them info on how to spread that information.
We have no 100% proof that promised them anything in return.
but...
We do know, that Trump was trying to build the tallest building in all of Europe in Moscow and giving Putin a $50 million penthouse if the deal went through. While he was constantly lying to his voters and the American people that he had no deal going on in Russia during the election or before the election.
We also know that Trump has been doing business for decades with dodgy Russian oligarchs, buying cheap property and selling them expensively to them (typical money laundering ).They effectively bailed him out when he was going bankrupt again in the 90s..
So.. they have that leverage over him.
We also know that Trump got the GOP to change its stance on Russia after he got the nomination... effectively stopping all sanctions the US put on Russia after they Invaded the Crimea peninsula.
The GOP suddenly went from Russia is hostile.. to Russia is A OK.
So.. the Russians hacked the DNC and other institutions, stole material, got information from the Trump campaign over more then 120 unreported meetings with Russian assets, spread that information, which helped get Trump elected, and got the most Russia friendly president the US has had since 1867.
While constantly lying to you that he had NO DEALS with the Russians.. and that the CIA,FBI,NSA, several NATO allies, where ALL lying about him.
He is accused of getting help from the Russians, with stolen material and giving them info on how to spread that information.
We have no 100% proof that promised them anything in return.
but...
We do know, that Trump was trying to build the tallest building in all of Europe in Moscow and giving Putin a $50 million penthouse if the deal went through. While he was constantly lying to his voters and the American people that he had no deal going on in Russia during the election or before the election.
We also know that Trump has been doing business for decades with dodgy Russian oligarchs, buying cheap property and selling them expensively to them (typical money laundering ).They effectively bailed him out when he was going bankrupt again in the 90s..
So.. they have that leverage over him.
We also know that Trump got the GOP to change its stance on Russia after he got the nomination... effectively stopping all sanctions the US put on Russia after they Invaded the Crimea peninsula.
The GOP suddenly went from Russia is hostile.. to Russia is A OK.
So.. the Russians hacked the DNC and other institutions, stole material, got information from the Trump campaign over more then 120 unreported meetings with Russian assets, spread that information, which helped get Trump elected, and got the most Russia friendly president the US has had since 1867.
While constantly lying to you that he had NO DEALS with the Russians.. and that the CIA,FBI,NSA, several NATO allies, where ALL lying about him.
Ok then..
Better get that information over to Mueller !!! Maybe he'll change his report that says no collusion and no cooperation by any American.
Good luck with that !!!
The GOP suddenly went from Russia is hostile.. to Russia is A OK.
Uh, the Democrats have flipped on Russia far worse.
Obama and millions of democrats (media included) mocked Romney for calling Russia a geo-political adversary, which it was and still is.
Most Republicans admit Russia is a geo-political adversary, we just understand that they aren't totally evil, that we meddle in their politics as well, and the collusion claims has thus far been a baseless sham verging on an attempted coup to depose a president by the political opposition in the US.
In fact Woodrow Wilson (D), Bill Clinton (D) and Barack Obama (D) have been accused of meddling in Russian politics and it is hypocritical to scream bloody murder when Russia retaliates back to something that we have been doing for a century in Russia - and all over the world.
Better get that information over to Mueller !!! Maybe he'll change his report that says no collusion and no cooperation by any American.
Good luck with that !!!
Which he has said.. HE can't charge the President. But Congress can... and he is saying there is evidence there that Trump did try to interfere in the investigation on several points. Which are a crime.
If you dont have figured that out yet.. you should read the report more slowly.
Uh, the Democrats have flipped on Russia far worse.
Obama and millions of democrats (media included) mocked Romney for calling Russia a geo-political adversary, which it was and still is.
Most Republicans admit Russia is a geo-political adversary, we just understand that they aren't totally evil, that we meddle in their politics as well, and the collusion claims has thus far been a baseless sham verging on an attempted coup to depose a president by the political opposition in the US.
In fact Woodrow Wilson (D), Bill Clinton (D) and Barack Obama (D) have been accused of meddling in Russian politics and it is hypocritical to scream bloody murder when Russia retaliates back to something that we have been doing for a century in Russia - and all over the world.
This is an unusual thesis:
- Russia has always been an adversary, but Obama underestimated it.
- Republicans don’t underestimate Russia, but realize that America does the same bad stuff we accuse Russia of doing.
- Democrats are accused of doing this bad stuff to Russia, so we shouldn’t be upset when Russia fights back.
This line of reasoning has obvious parallels to U.S. involvement in the Middle East, but not many are lining up to blame Republicans for 9/11 and its aftermath. Nor should they. Because that ”both sides” line of argument is stupid, whether we’re talking about Russia or any other territory.
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But the argument is that Mueller manipulated evidence to make Trump look guilty, correct? Wouldn't that be something?
I suppose Mueller could've used some well-placed ellipses just for funsies, so that he could and his Deep State Bros could high-five and laugh about it later. But then, just when he had Trump right where he wanted him with his fake evidence, he showed tremendous restraint and declined to draw a conclusion on obstruction, leaving Trump and Barr wiggle room to declare victory.
Worst Deep State conspiracy ever.
Mueller's every machination was choreographed to do maximum damage to Trump...
He Hammered the hell out of Manafort; but sent Tony Podesta's case to SDNY to languish and die for a reason.
Mueller was always more interested in optics and the narrative than he was in justice.
Which he has said.. HE can't charge the President. But Congress can... and he is saying there is evidence there that Trump did try to interfere in the investigation on several points. Which are a crime.
If you dont have figured that out yet.. you should read the report more slowly.
so who's going to place criminal charges against Trump?
But Mueller is Republican. That does not make sense.
No he’s not.
He’s a political opportunist, at best a RINO. Remember he was furious at Trump for not giving him the FBI directorship he so coveted.
No honorable Republican would bring in all Hillary supporters and Trump haters on a council to help Hillary get elected by finding dirt on Trump and later create a witch hunt investigation to destroy Trump.
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