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Old 06-05-2019, 09:08 AM
 
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I live in Georgia. Alot of Whites here are conservative. Georgia's White suicide rate is lower than the national average. This is my theory. Alot of Whites here are religious. A largely Baptist, very church-going state like Georgia, this tends to breed a low suicide rate. And one of the questions one might get asked include "what church do you go to?", especially if you live outside of Atlanta.

The states with some of the highest White suicide rates, this is what I notice.
1) States with aging populations
2) Some of the least religious states in the USA.
3) Alot of isolation.

Compare this with New Jersey, a very crowded state with a large Catholic population, and many of its elderly go south for the winter. New Jersey has a low suicide rate.
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Old 06-05-2019, 09:09 AM
 
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I believe the old school term for this is called testosterone and pretty common in all animals.



This is why every species fights like hell to gain a mate. We are prewired to do this. To the point of self destruction.

Males of every species are prewired to be more violent than females. There are exceptions.
Isn't this supposed to be programmed to wane after the big reproductive years?

" ages 45 to 64 representing the fastest-growing group,"

That does not correlate to maximum T or fighting for mates.
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Old 06-05-2019, 09:16 AM
 
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I live in Georgia. Alot of Whites here are conservative. Georgia's White suicide rate is lower than the national average. This is my theory. Alot of Whites here are religious. A largely Baptist, very church-going state like Georgia, this tends to breed a low suicide rate. And one of the questions one might get asked include "what church do you go to?", especially if you live outside of Atlanta.

The states with some of the highest White suicide rates, this is what I notice.
1) States with aging populations
2) Some of the least religious states in the USA.
3) Alot of isolation.

Compare this with New Jersey, a very crowded state with a large Catholic population, and many of its elderly go south for the winter. New Jersey has a low suicide rate.
The combination of two and three probably helps to explain the difference in suicide rates between the Mountain and Pacific time zones - - both are less religious, but more isolation in the Mountain Timezone.
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Old 06-05-2019, 09:22 AM
 
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The combination of two and three probably helps to explain the difference in suicide rates between the Mountain and Pacific time zones - - both are less religious, but more isolation in the Mountain Timezone.
I find it odd that Seattle gets linked to suicide. But that actually had to do with the 1970s, when joblessness was a problem there. That and Kurt Cobain's suicide didn't help matters either. Now, suicide has dropped alot in Seattle. In Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, it's worse. Seattle has grown alot and it's densely population. Not as isolated relative to the northern Rockies region.
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Old 06-05-2019, 09:23 AM
 
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Did that happen to you? My sympathies.
It wasn't the fashion when I was young.
Now that I'm not.
They would need a chain saw to take on a big job and a wheelbarrow to haul m off. Two trips !!!
Now go change your dress and leave the boys alone !!!

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Old 06-05-2019, 09:27 AM
 
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I live in Georgia. Alot of Whites here are conservative. Georgia's White suicide rate is lower than the national average. This is my theory. Alot of Whites here are religious. A largely Baptist, very church-going state like Georgia, this tends to breed a low suicide rate. And one of the questions one might get asked include "what church do you go to?", especially if you live outside of Atlanta.

The states with some of the highest White suicide rates, this is what I notice.
1) States with aging populations
2) Some of the least religious states in the USA.
3) A lot of isolation.

Compare this with New Jersey, a very crowded state with a large Catholic population, and many of its elderly go south for the winter. New Jersey has a low suicide rate.
Why are whites in AL among the highest in the US? I would assume they are as "religious" as those in GA.

All statistics I have seen show that that the entire Bible Belt is either equal or worse in most "sin" questions than the more liberal states. From obesity to Divorce to Health to Opiate Scripts to education/income and more....I think things are worse.

Oh, the defaulting on car loans is also off the charts (AL one of the highest, rural areas in the South generally the highest, etc.).

I've read a lot of stats on suicide and I think you are correct in only one sense here.....

That is, if we are programmed (taught, brainwashed, etc.) that we will be confined to the fires of hell for eternity (or the like in some other religions), we are certainly less likely to take our own lives even if we would have....if that wasn't drummed into us.

But to really control for it we'd then have to take whatever negatives that created. Or, we'd have to place judgment on whether it was "good" or bad for for 60 year old with terminal cancer to take their own life.

There is simply not enough data on all of this.

Having spent some time in the far north I can certainly say that I'd be tempted to quit after 200 cloudy, cold rainy days unless I was surrounded by a constant positive community.

My take is that all these crisis of depression, meds, substances, etc. are pretty much the same everywhere and that trying to blame them on "the other" usually does not pan out.
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Old 06-05-2019, 02:22 PM
 
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Define “conservative values.”
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Old 06-05-2019, 02:36 PM
 
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What is the impact on young white males as a result of the self-loathing through indoctrination push on them ? How many times do we have to cut their balls off and make them wear a dress before we realize its not good for them ?
Whoa hey what??
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Old 06-05-2019, 02:42 PM
 
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To make an accurate comparison you would need to control for income, employment status, education, and financial stability, among other things. Then, and only then, can you legitimately make such a sweeping generalization.
Which polling organization would do well with including that? Pew?
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Old 06-05-2019, 02:44 PM
 
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The west is inherently more expensive due to expansive distances between population centers. The smaller towns are shriveling bleeding younger populations to larger cities where cost of living is through the roof. Couple that with a lenient attitude towards drugs and overzealous laws that send many young people into the corrections system trapping them in a cycle of recividism. For white males, there is no such thing as white privilege in the west, unless you have the privilege of land or money. The law will set out to incarcerate while being lenient towards people of color out of guilt.
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