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Old 06-13-2019, 01:26 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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There better be more evidence that this was led by Iran. This doesn’t make sense for them specially with the Japan PM visiting there and trying to convince him to get on their side. If I had to say this looks more like someone in the area trying to make sure things escalate between US and Iran, so we will do their dirty job.
given the timing, that sure looks like a possibility.
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Old 06-13-2019, 01:43 PM
 
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Ignore attacks on foreign flagged oil tankers in international waters?

The U.S. gets pulled into being the world police far too often, and other certianly nations need to pull their "fair share" of the load, but it cannot be ignored.
Ignoring it is the best option.

When in 10 years, the United States military is losing thousands of men every year in a guerrilla war on Persian soil, don’t say you weren’t warned.

An escalation can only lead to a full blown war. The Iranians can’t and won’t back down, and we can’t either to save face.

Some fights just aren’t worth it. Ignore it.
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Old 06-13-2019, 01:49 PM
 
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Ignoring it is the best option.

When in 10 years, the United States military is losing thousands of men every year in a guerrilla war on Persian soil, don’t say you weren’t warned.

An escalation can only lead to a full blown war. The Iranians can’t and won’t back down, and we can’t either to save face.

Some fights just aren’t worth it. Ignore it.
Sadly we are now seeing Pompey saying the US has information that Iran is behind this. This could lead to once again American lives lost to defend whose interests?

Let’s hope more congressmen stand up and questions who stands to gain from this?
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Old 06-13-2019, 01:52 PM
 
Location: Heart of the desert lands
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Ignoring it is the best option.

When in 10 years, the United States military is losing thousands of men every year in a guerrilla war on Persian soil, don’t say you weren’t warned.

An escalation can only lead to a full blown war. The Iranians can’t and won’t back down, and we can’t either to save face.

Some fights just aren’t worth it. Ignore it.
I personally am not advocating the U.S. get involved. But it cannot be simply ignored.

Who should address it, in your opinion?

Japan? Norway?
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Old 06-13-2019, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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I see you have a very selective memory and don't remember 7+ years of two wars under GWB and 2+ years in Afghanistan under Trump. Have a drink, you guys win, 10+ to 8 although y'all should probably get extra points for having started those wars!
I believe his/her point was that since 2001 (bush, Obama, trump too) we have been bombing, policing, ground sustainment etc in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Lebanon, Somalia, Pakistan, Yemen, plus a few others.....


its about time we left the middleeast and north Africa to their own demise... enough of these liberal wars
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Old 06-13-2019, 02:19 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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They’re now saying it was mines.
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Old 06-13-2019, 02:39 PM
 
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They’re now saying it was mines.
Canada is a leading country in mining and drilling technology.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOR38552MJA
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Old 06-13-2019, 02:43 PM
 
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They’re now saying it was mines.
post #63

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Canada is a leading country in mining and drilling technology.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOR38552MJA
hehe
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Old 06-13-2019, 03:00 PM
 
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Sadly we are now seeing Pompey saying the US has information that Iran is behind this. This could lead to once again American lives lost to defend whose interests?

Let’s hope more congressmen stand up and questions who stands to gain from this?
I think for the first time in our history, the American populace WILL NOT support a war. Not even if Trump wants it.
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I personally am not advocating the U.S. get involved. But it cannot be simply ignored.

Who should address it, in your opinion?

Japan? Norway?
Don’t care as long as it ain’t us. It’s not our hemisphere. There is no way to retaliate against Iran without it leading to disaster. I don’t believe they did it anyway unless I see it with my own eyes. Otherwise, I see the hand of Israel and the Saudis.

We can’t afford to get involved. Not after Iraq. Our credibility is shot.
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Old 06-13-2019, 03:02 PM
 
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They’re now saying it was mines.
“What chu Tonkin bout Willis?”

Pompeo said different at his press conference.
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