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Old 06-14-2019, 07:49 PM
 
Location: Myrtle Creek, Oregon
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That "Communist" country did not come over and steal our jobs. You are mad at the wrong entities.
Right on. It was the US free trade policy that paved the road for the multinationals and put the skids under the American worker. People don't realize that jobs were not offshored because US production was unprofitable. The jobs were shipped offshore because it could increase profits by 1%. The fat cats raked it in while the American worker got screwed.
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Old 06-14-2019, 07:49 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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There's an important lesson for America if we care to pay heed.

Trump is blaming Iran but there is huge skepticism both at home and across the world. And why do so many not believe him? Because he lies every day and he lies about every subject.

You cannot be an effective world leader if you have zero credibility. Integrity is important. Spin and some bias is okay and expected. But constant outright lying does not serve us well.
Yes an effective leader could make a lie like this and succeed like Colin Powell.
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Old 06-14-2019, 07:50 PM
 
Location: Myrtle Creek, Oregon
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I think it was Israel. They are against Japan's diplomacy effort and of course they want the world to believe it was Iran.
They are certainly the most probable suspect.
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Old 06-14-2019, 08:11 PM
 
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While they're in Japan trying to salvage the Nuclear Deal, no less?

It's not to Iran's advantage, so who else stands to benefit, hmmm....

Japan wants Iran's oil.
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Old 06-14-2019, 08:28 PM
 
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Right on. It was the US free trade policy that paved the road for the multinationals and put the skids under the American worker. People don't realize that jobs were not offshored because US production was unprofitable. The jobs were shipped offshore because it could increase profits by 1%. The fat cats raked it in while the American worker got screwed.
America wasn't the only country. The whole world has lost their manufacturing sovereignty to China. It trickles overseas until more people/countries do it then is a torrent of manufacturing job losses until only China has all manufacturing jobs.
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Old 06-14-2019, 08:43 PM
 
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We did win Vietnam.
What did we win?
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Old 06-14-2019, 08:44 PM
 
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Right on. It was the US free trade policy that paved the road for the multinationals and put the skids under the American worker. People don't realize that jobs were not offshored because US production was unprofitable. The jobs were shipped offshore because it could increase profits by 1%. The fat cats raked it in while the American worker got screwed.
We are going to pay for putting shareholders over labor.
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Old 06-14-2019, 09:06 PM
 
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Gulf of Tonkin and USS Liberty come to mind.
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Old 06-14-2019, 09:16 PM
 
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If we went to China, half the population would be drafted into war, because of course let's make it a ground war in China. I want this soo bad.
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Old 06-14-2019, 09:25 PM
 
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Gulf of Tonkin and USS Liberty come to mind.
Iraq's WMD and the US trying to blame Iran for Iraq's chemical weapon attack come to mind.
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