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Old 06-13-2019, 09:26 PM
 
Location: New York
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Looks like Democrats are going to start introducing legislation prior to next year's election to make a statement that are serious about these expansions.

It's basically a game the Democrats are doing because they know that it won't pass the Republican senate and President Trump will veto.

Estimates are that this new scheme they are introducing in Democrats higher education package would have a price tag of 125 billion dollars a year.

They just want to manipulate desperate segments of society into saying look at your going to get if you vote for us in 2020.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/06/13/bill...loan-debt.html

Borrowers with a household income of less than $100,000 would have $50,000 outstanding loans "Scrubbed"

Borrowers would have student debt forgiveness all the way up to $250,000 annual income

They are selling voters a bridge to nowhere. Once elected it all goes away and it's back to business as usual.



Obama promised lower healthcare premiums and keeping our doctors, instead we got free Obama phones for the poor. We paid through the nose for both.
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Old 06-13-2019, 09:27 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Can't even put together a fraction of this to have a secure border. WTH
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Old 06-13-2019, 09:47 PM
 
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Dems always promise but never deliver. Still their Demwit base never learns.


Meanwhile Trump is checking items off his list of promises made, promises kept.
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Old 06-13-2019, 09:54 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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They are selling voters a bridge to nowhere. Once elected it all goes away and it's back to business as usual.



Obama promised lower healthcare premiums and keeping our doctors, instead we got free Obama phones for the poor. We paid through the nose for both.
That program started under Reagan
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Old 06-13-2019, 09:57 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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They are selling voters a bridge to nowhere. Once elected it all goes away and it's back to business as usual.



Obama promised lower healthcare premiums and keeping our doctors, instead we got free Obama phones for the poor. We paid through the nose for both.
The dreams and fantasies are getting more and more excessive though.

President Trump's presidency is very strong and the Democrats know that they have to appeal to certain micro-segments of society and lie to them by telling them they will wave a magic wand and all debt and bad choices will be forgiven and if they vote for Democrats they will ride happily after with no debt into the sunset while we run up the bills with more debt and taxes for people who are trying to be responsible.

These are just dreams, fantasies and bait and switch bribes and nothing else from the Democrats trying to manipulate people into voting for them.

I wonder how many college students are going to start spending they don't have because they are counting on a Democratic presidency to forgive every penny they ran up.
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Old 06-13-2019, 11:43 PM
 
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Originally Posted by lovecrowds View Post
Looks like Democrats are going to start introducing legislation prior to next year's election to make a statement that are serious about these expansions.

It's basically a game the Democrats are doing because they know that it won't pass the Republican senate and President Trump will veto.

Estimates are that this new scheme they are introducing in Democrats higher education package would have a price tag of 125 billion dollars a year.

They just want to manipulate desperate segments of society into saying look at your going to get if you vote for us in 2020.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/06/13/bill...loan-debt.html

Borrowers with a household income of less than $100,000 would have $50,000 outstanding loans "Scrubbed"

Borrowers would have student debt forgiveness all the way up to $250,000 annual income
It's crooked, but it's a smart move. The loan proceeds were paid to left-wing universities, and now the left-wing tries to benefit from forgiving the "debt". The right way to do it is to forgive a percentage of everyone's debt (why discriminate?), probably 40-75%.

And then you have to end government guarantees of student loan debt and make it dischargeable in bankruptcy, so that tuition prices drop by 35 to 65%. The student loan thing is a racket for making universities fabulously wealthy, and it needs to stop.
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Old 06-14-2019, 12:39 AM
 
Location: 89434
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Typical college grad:

- Goes to college and majors in fine arts (or insert useless major here).

- Graduates and gets into huge debt.

- Can't get a job and blames rich people for their woes.

- Demands Bernie Sanders and/or Elizabeth Warren to get rid of their debt.
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Old 06-14-2019, 12:43 AM
 
Location: 89434
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We bailed out bankers who took massive irresponsible risks. We spent trillions on unnecessary wars. What’s wrong with helping students who did what society told them they had to do do succeed (ie get a college education)?

They borrow money to pay for their college degree, and they should pay every cent of it back.

People who took out a loan to buy a house or a car had to pay it back, and with interest. Why can't college grads do the same?
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Old 06-14-2019, 06:03 AM
 
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Conservatives: handing out money to help young people struggling with debt is BAD


Conservatives: handing out subsidized tax cuts, funded by public borrowing, to rich people who don't need more money is GOOD
This.
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Old 06-14-2019, 09:56 AM
 
Location: New York
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Originally Posted by Originalist
They are selling voters a bridge to nowhere. Once elected it all goes away and it's back to business as usual.

Obama promised lower healthcare premiums and keeping our doctors, instead we got free Obama phones for the poor. We paid through the nose for both.


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That program started under Reagan
You are using the Lifeline program falsely.


There is a huge difference between free cell phones and free limited local calling on a landline.
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