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Old 06-13-2019, 07:10 PM
 
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Please stop demanding ideologically extreme positions on abortion as a purity test.

It's perfectly reasonable for people to be against controlling women's bodies while simultaneously believing that abortion is a tragic outcome that shouldn't be celebrated.
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Old 06-13-2019, 07:16 PM
 
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Please stop demanding ideologically extreme positions on abortion as a purity test.

It's perfectly reasonable for people to be against controlling women's bodies while simultaneously believing that abortion is a tragic outcome that shouldn't be celebrated.
No, its not perfectly reasonable to believe the above. It is not reasonable to advocate allowing a tragic incident to occur in the name of bodily autonomy.

Moreover, I find it interesting that you call on both Democrats and Republicans to "stop demanding ideologically extreme positions on abortion," then go on and take a position on the issue more closely aligned with Dems.
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Old 06-13-2019, 07:22 PM
 
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Please stop demanding ideologically extreme positions on abortion as a purity test.

It's perfectly reasonable for people to be against controlling women's bodies while simultaneously believing that abortion is a tragic outcome that shouldn't be celebrated.
You have just defined the very reasonable pro-choice position.

People who are pro-choice believe that women have the basic human right to decide when and whether to have children, based on their own moral and religious beliefs, even though they themselves may not choose abortion as an option for an unplanned pregnancy or medical tragedy.

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Old 06-13-2019, 07:26 PM
 
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You have just defined pro-choice.

People who are pro-choice believe that women have the basic human right to decide when and whether to have children, based on their own moral and religious beliefs, even though they themselves may not choose abortion as an option for an unplanned pregnancy.
My personal belief is that abortion is wrong and that barring some sort of life-threatening complication, I would never advocate anybody to get one. I'm also a bit uncomfortable dictating that my worldview is the only valid one, and that women would probably get abortions anyway, so I think all of these things need to be taken into account. I'm not sure that's really pro-choice.
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Old 06-13-2019, 07:39 PM
 
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Please stop demanding ideologically extreme positions on abortion as a purity test.

It's perfectly reasonable for people to be against controlling women's bodies while simultaneously believing that abortion is a tragic outcome that shouldn't be celebrated.
It should be regulated by law.

1st - no restrictions
2nd - a fair amount of restrictions
3rd - extremely restricted
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Old 06-13-2019, 07:40 PM
 
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What is this "purity test" you mention?

I am against abortion on demand based on the science of human development.

I am also decidedly irreligious.

Further, I back my belief by donating dollars to a free clinic for the sole purpose of providing no cost birth control to women who fall outside of income restrictions for free birth control but find the cost prohibitive.
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Old 06-13-2019, 07:41 PM
 
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Why stop mass murder? It's just one of those things that I don't like... Sorry ..
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Old 06-13-2019, 07:46 PM
 
Location: Denver CO
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My personal belief is that abortion is wrong and that barring some sort of life-threatening complication, I would never advocate anybody to get one. I'm also a bit uncomfortable dictating that my worldview is the only valid one, and that women would probably get abortions anyway, so I think all of these things need to be taken into account. I'm not sure that's really pro-choice.
It's pro-choice if you think women are qualified to decide for themselves, even when you disagree with them. That's all.
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Old 06-13-2019, 07:47 PM
 
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It's pro-choice if you think women are qualified to decide for themselves, even when you disagree with them. That's all.
So, you believe there should be no legal restrictions?

It's a very simple question.
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Old 06-13-2019, 07:49 PM
 
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If pro-life supporters carried their beliefs far enough to give some thought to the resultant child and the sort of life he/she was likely to have, I would feel a little better about supporting them.

After all, it seems to me that it's really about the child. There are enough children in the world today that are unwanted, unfed, and unlikely to have one happy moment in the family they happen to be born into. Why must we put more innocent children into a state where this is likely to be their fate? That seems to me to be a really unfeeling thing.

I realize there is another thread on this at the moment.
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