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"Terror" should be abolished with "for the kids" and "the drugs" and all the other terms that are thrown out there.
Without a doubt, one persons terrorist is another freedom fighter and is another great leader or monarch.
There are, in this world, common interests...tho...which cover a vast percentage of the people. When "freedom fighters", for example, toppled the WTC that was taking things WAY too far, although I understand the situation. The ROW (rest of the world) that has seen complete destruction, often under our bombs (even if we were chasing bad guys with them sometimes), thinks that perhaps Americans will cut back if we feel the same pains they do. Unfortunately for them, the opposite seems to be true - we will bomb and sell trillions of dollars of war toys and claim we are doing it all for "balance of power".
But Fundie Islam simply doesn't have much in common with most of the world (other than money talks).
Americans experience blowback, but only at a tiny level compared to what we dish out.....to mostly innocents. So if the definition of terrorism is vast harm to innocents for little reason (or trumped up reasons), then....yeah...it's mostly the same thing no matter where it happens.
I think the USA is in transition - I had hoped that lessons were learned from Vietnam and Korea, but it appears the Military Industrial Complex and a general militarized populace (violent, gun toting, racist, better-than-thou) has keep the same basics going ahead. War pays....in many ways....but, unless you are fighting Nazis or the like, it costs more than it pays.
My guess is opiate deaths in a 5 year period exceed the "American innocents AND freedom fighter" deaths in the last 45 years....BY FAR. An interesting perspective if nothing else....when we leveled every brick in Korea and killed millions in Vietnam and have been responsible for millions (sanctions) in Iraq, etc.
It's truly Amazing how Trump cozies up to NK.....but, given the chance to completely normalize relations with Iran, it seems like he has went completely backwards! Doesn't make any sense since the People and the Economy of Iran have more in common with the rest of the world...by far...than NK.
Look up. See that huge boot with spikes sticking out about to land on your head? Yep...that’s me.
You’re not my size. Either answer the question or go play somewhere.
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I don't know - you tell me. Trump hasn't undertaken any new military actions that weren't already in progress, has he?
Aren’t we sponsoring some nasty stuff in Yemen? Or have you conveniently forgotten about that?
Or maybe you just don’t think it’s terrorism because it’s being perpetrated in your name. But the Yemenis think it’s terrorism though. Their opinion matters. Especially when they decide to seek revenge one day.
But hey, 9/11 wasn’t enough blowback for some Americans. Maybe you’re one of them.
Supposedly, Iran is bad because as we keep hearing, it’s the world’s “leading sponsor of terrorism.” This raises a question: if they’re the LEADING sponsor of terrorism, who are the other terrorism sponsor actors? And if we’re one of them, why pretend as if the Iranians are so bad?
So...is the United States in the terror sponsor business too?
Of course. I don't know why people cannot be objective and unbiased about our own country.
I see. You don't have the stones to answer the question. Got it.
One more time. What's the point of your question?
No, I don’t have the time nor patience to answer it. Answering it doesn’t take stones. You’re acting as if there’s some inherent profundity in your question. There isn’t. Only insolence. But that’s your problem, not mine.
Besides, me answering your question changes nothing about the thread premise. Answer it or don’t answer it. But you can best believe that I won’t be answering YOUR question.
Aren’t we sponsoring some nasty stuff in Yemen? Or have you conveniently forgotten about that?
Or maybe you just don’t think it’s terrorism because it’s being perpetrated in your name. But the Yemenis think it’s terrorism though. Their opinion matters. Especially when they decide to seek revenge one day.
But hey, 9/11 wasn’t enough blowback for some Americans. Maybe you’re one of them.
No, I don’t have the time nor patience to answer it. Answering it doesn’t take stones. You’re acting as if there’s some inherent profundity in your question. There isn’t. Only insolence. But that’s your problem, not mine.
Besides, me answering your question changes nothing about the thread premise. Answer it or don’t answer it. But you can best believe that I won’t be answering YOUR question.
There's nothing insolent or profound about questioning your motive or motivation for the question. An explanation clarifies the premise for the reader. Because right now, people have to guess. That's what "Answer your own question" means. I'm not going to guess.
However, the fact a vet would even pose a rhetorical question like that, answers this underlying question:
Do you think, at its core, the U.S. is a good and decent country? Your answer is no.
I think it's shameful that you even attempt to draw an equivalence between Iran and the US in the first place. You must've been out of the game for quite some time. I'm not.
And by the way, there _IS_ an objective definition of terrorism, it is just subjective in how it's applied.
There's nothing insolent or profound about questioning your motive or motivation for the question. An explanation clarifies the premise for the reader. Because right now, people have to guess. That's what "Answer your own question" means. I'm not going to guess.
However, the fact a vet would even pose a rhetorical question like that, answers this underlying question:
Do you think, at its core, the U.S. is a good and decent country? Your answer is no.
I think it's shameful that you even attempt to draw an equivalence between Iran and the US in the first place. You must've been out of the game for quite some time. I'm not.
And by the way, there _IS_ an objective definition of terrorism, it is just subjective in how it's applied.
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