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Old 10-24-2019, 01:19 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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I'm not talking about a Czech national who happens to be ethnically Chinese. I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU KEEP DEFLECTING AND BRINGING IT UP!
you refuse to talk about it, because it destroys your argument that czech is an ethnicity.

figures.
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Old 10-24-2019, 01:21 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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you refuse to talk about it, because it destroys your argument that czech is an ethnicity.

figures.
No, I'm talking people whose families had lived in the Bohemian region of Europe for over 2,000 years. Those people are ethnically Czech. You're being disingenuous
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Old 10-24-2019, 01:23 PM
 
Location: San Jose
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you refuse to talk about it, because it destroys your argument that czech is an ethnicity.

figures.
Czech is a ethno-Linguistic group and a nation state. Basque is an ethno-Linguistic group but does not have a nation state. Singapore is not a ethno-Linguistic group but is a nation state. Its not that complicated to understand.
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Old 10-24-2019, 01:24 PM
 
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No, I'm talking people whose families had lived in the Bohemian region of Europe for over 2,000 years. Those people are ethnically Czech. You're being disingenuous
no disingenuousness, just facts.

Czech, Slovenian, and Slovak are terms of nationality, not ethnicity. you're just going to have to deal with it.
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Old 10-24-2019, 01:26 PM
 
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Czech is a ethno-Linguistic group and a nation state. Basque is an ethno-Linguistic group but does not have a nation state. Singapore is not a ethno-Linguistic group but is a nation state. Its not that complicated to understand.
all the terms i'm arguing about are nation-states, not ethnicities.

agreed, it's not that complicated to understand. that's why the Chinese immigrant's son in my example is Czech, but not Slavic.
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Old 10-24-2019, 01:42 PM
 
Location: San Jose
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all the terms i'm arguing about are nation-states, not ethnicities.
The three groups in question happen to be both.

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that's why the Chinese immigrant's son in my example is Czech, but not Slavic.
The individual in your scenario would be of Chinese ancestry, who speaks a Slavic language and who is a citizen of the Czech Republic. He would be considered Czech by citizenship and by language but not Czech by heritage and ethnicity.
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Old 10-24-2019, 01:54 PM
 
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The three groups in question happen to be both.



The individual in your scenario would be of Chinese ancestry, who speaks a Slavic language and who is a citizen of the Czech Republic. He would be considered Czech by citizenship and by language but not Czech by heritage and ethnicity.
right. so you have handily explained why Czech is not an ethnicity. thanks!

now please go tell firebirdcamaro before he has another hissy fit.
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Old 10-24-2019, 02:00 PM
 
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right. so you have handily explained why Czech is not an ethnicity. thanks!

now please go tell firebirdcamaro before he has another hissy fit.
No, he didn't. He explained the opposite
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Old 10-24-2019, 02:19 PM
 
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No, he didn't. He explained the opposite
lol!

"He would be considered Czech by citizenship and by language but not Czech by heritage and ethnicity."
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Old 10-24-2019, 02:21 PM
 
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lol!

"He would be considered Czech by citizenship and by language but not Czech by heritage and ethnicity."
The highlighted part is what I'm talking about. You seem to be talking about the former. It's like we're having two different conversations here
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