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"People need to take a long hard look at their college plans, which may require 2 year of jr. college then transfer, working long hours during the summer....whatever it takes to not get in a big hole financially."
And heaven FORBID they WORK their way through college.
Easy to say. Hard to do. Assuming you live close enough to a state college you can live with your parents and commute. Tuition and fees are over $10k a year not counting their regular expenses like a car, insurance, food, clothing etc. maybe the work all summer to earn enough for those expenses.
Most college kids would be lucky to get a $10/hr job. So they have to work over 1000 hours a school year which is basically 30 weeks long. That means in addition to going to school full time, commuting to school, studying for classes, and so on they have to squeeze in a full time 35 hour a week job just to pay for tuition and that is assuming they live at home and have so few expenses they can earn enough in the summer to cover them.
Meanwhile in 1970 tuition was $400 for public uni tuition and minimum wage was $1.45. Now a kid could earn enough for school in 275 hrs a school year or less than 10 hours a week. Much more reasonable.
Easy to say. Hard to do. Assuming you live close enough to a state college you can live with your parents and commute. Tuition and fees are over $10k a year not counting their regular expenses like a car, insurance, food, clothing etc. maybe the work all summer to earn enough for those expenses.
Most college kids would be lucky to get a $10/hr job. So they have to work over 1000 hours a school year which is basically 30 weeks long. That means in addition to going to school full time, commuting to school, studying for classes, and so on they have to squeeze in a full time 35 hour a week job just to pay for tuition and that is assuming they live at home and have so few expenses they can earn enough in the summer to cover them.
Meanwhile in 1970 tuition was $400 for public uni tuition and minimum wage was $1.45. Now a kid could earn enough for school in 275 hrs a school year or less than 10 hours a week. Much more reasonable.
I went back to school in my 30’s and got my degree, while working full time. My total cost for a regionally accredited business degree was around $6K including books. No loans, paid as I went.
I then did my MBA from a top 20 school, part time while I worked full time, total out of pocket for me was around $25K, no loans, paid as I went. But even had I taken out loans it still would have paid off.
It’s possible if you plan, are careful and choose well.
The person who racks up $100K+ in debt to go to NYU to study Women’s Issues gets zero sympathy from me.
"If it’s “gender studies” or “art history,” then good for you. If you paid for the education, it’s really none of anyone’s business what kind of degree you obtained"
All of what you say is fine. Just DON'T complain when you have $32,000 in student loans and you don't make enough to pay it back.
Which IS the TOPIC of this Thread. Didn't you just complain on anther thread about NOT keeping to the subject of the thread?
The TOPIC of this Thread is the utterly false premise that a survey shows 2/3's of employees regret their college degrees.
Easy to say. Hard to do. Assuming you live close enough to a state college you can live with your parents and commute. Tuition and fees are over $10k a year not counting their regular expenses like a car, insurance, food, clothing etc. maybe the work all summer to earn enough for those expenses.
Most college kids would be lucky to get a $10/hr job. So they have to work over 1000 hours a school year which is basically 30 weeks long. That means in addition to going to school full time, commuting to school, studying for classes, and so on they have to squeeze in a full time 35 hour a week job just to pay for tuition and that is assuming they live at home and have so few expenses they can earn enough in the summer to cover them.
Meanwhile in 1970 tuition was $400 for public uni tuition and minimum wage was $1.45. Now a kid could earn enough for school in 275 hrs a school year or less than 10 hours a week. Much more reasonable.
"Meanwhile in 1970 tuition was $400 for public uni tuition"
And cars cost how much back then.
You CAN'T compare the cost of living and salaries of 1970 to today.
Yesterday I was at Starbucks 70% are college grads plus some grad school for some
average wage $9.30 hr
In 1973 in Paris I saw advanced degree people working in service jobs- I thought it was pretty crazy
It followed me home
Yesterday I was at Starbucks 70% are college grads plus some grad school for some
average wage $9.30 hr
In 1973 in Paris I saw advanced degree people working in service jobs- I thought it was pretty crazy
It followed me home
But your barista is an expert on Gender Studies. Thinks about it as she works her 2nd job at food delivery.
It's still better to have a gender studies degree than no degree at all. For any job other than minimum wage fast food and retail, a degree is usually required. And if you don't have one, your application will go straight in the garbage can.
It's still better to have a gender studies degree than no degree at all. For any job other than minimum wage fast food and retail, a degree is usually required. And if you don't have one, your application will go straight in the garbage can.
False. This is a commonly believed myth by far too many today and is a major contributing factor to the student loan crisis. If you go $50K+ in debt to finance a worthless degree, and then you can't secure gainful employment opportunities other than your typical $12-$15 an hour service type job (there are millions out there with worthless degrees in this very situation), then you are far worse off than if you had no college degree and no college debt. Debt is the crushing factor.
It's still better to have a gender studies degree than no degree at all. For any job other than minimum wage fast food and retail, a degree is usually required. And if you don't have one, your application will go straight in the garbage can.
And, in those cases, the wise will be glad and far better off that it did.
Let’s just say college is about the furthest thing I have from a regret.
If you don’t want to regret your college, then actually learn a skill that is in demand and has value in the marketplace.
Just how many positions are there for degrees in sociology and gender studies?
Or just be really good at what you do. I'm an English major with a house five blocks from the Pacific Ocean. There are success stories with every major.
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