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Old 06-25-2019, 01:55 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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This article is completely misleading. The author didn't provide a link to the actual survey, but I was able to find it here:

https://www.payscale.com/data/biggest-college-regrets

It shows that roughly 2/3 have A REGRET about their education. It does not say they regret their degree. Some regret their loans; doesn't necessarily follow that they regret their degree. Some regret their choice of field or their choice of which college to attend. Some regret that they didn't take advantage of networking opportunities and some regret that they didn't perform better.

Also in the story they mention regrets of ADVANCED degrees. No doubt a PhD in the humanities is going to face few job openings and low pay. Not worth it unless you really love your job. Engineers can typically make good money with a BS; no advanced degree required. A PhD in the hard sciences or an MBA in business are usually seen as the ticket to advancement in those fields. Only 13% of Americans have an advanced degree.
yeah that does make more sense. thanks for tracking down the actual survey, i couldn't locate it.

however, in the story they mention ADVANCED degrees one time. that's it. it's not at all clear that the survey is solely based on advanced degrees or not.
in fact, the payscale page doesn't even mention advanced degrees. rather, it says:

Those with at least a bachelor’s degree were able to select their biggest educational regret.
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Old 06-25-2019, 01:57 PM
 
Location: Somewhere out there.
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Here is my take on Bernie. I think his heart and soul are in the right place, and he genuinely seems like a nice man. However, some of his ideas, while idealistic, are not practical. He leans a little too far toward socialism for me, personally.

He is obviously a very passionate, intelligent man, but just too wild in his ideas for me.
They're not wild ideas, they're sensible ideas that work perfectly well in other countries.
America is a big country and it takes a long time to accept ideas that have worked in other countries for decades.
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Old 06-25-2019, 01:57 PM
 
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my rule of thumb is that 2/3s of people are idiots so this doesn't surprise me at all
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Old 06-25-2019, 01:59 PM
 
Location: Somewhere out there.
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My degree was an Associate of Science from the College of Southern Idaho in 1978. It was for fish technology. I turned that degree into a 32 year career, mostly with Oregon Department of Fish & Wildlife, the last 10 years managing Leaburg Hatchery on the McKenzie River. I retired in 2011 with a nice pension. I have no regrets about my degree what so ever.

Sounds like a great life.
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Old 06-25-2019, 01:59 PM
 
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What?


That $150,000 degree in basket weaving from the Ivy League isn't worth a cup of coffee at Starbucks?
There are people here actually trying to have an adult discussion.
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Old 06-25-2019, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Planet Telex
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Originally Posted by Leo58 View Post
This article is completely misleading. The author didn't provide a link to the actual survey, but I was able to find it here:

https://www.payscale.com/data/biggest-college-regrets

It shows that roughly 2/3 have A REGRET about their education. It does not say they regret their degree. Some regret their loans; doesn't necessarily follow that they regret their degree. Some regret their choice of field or their choice of which college to attend. Some regret that they didn't take advantage of networking opportunities and some regret that they didn't perform better.

Also in the story they mention regrets of ADVANCED degrees. No doubt a PhD in the humanities is going to face few job openings and low pay. Not worth it unless you really love your job. Engineers can typically make good money with a BS; no advanced degree required. A PhD in the hard sciences or an MBA in business are usually seen as the ticket to advancement in those fields. Only 13% of Americans have an advanced degree.
Thank you for being one of the very few voices on reason on this website.
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Old 06-25-2019, 02:01 PM
 
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yeah that does make more sense. thanks for tracking down the actual survey, i couldn't locate it.

however, in the story they mention ADVANCED degrees one time. that's it. it's not at all clear that the survey is solely based on advanced degrees or not.
in fact, the payscale page doesn't even mention advanced degrees. rather, it says:

Those with at least a bachelor’s degree were able to select their biggest educational regret.
The article sucks. It was poorly written and I hope whoever wrote it didn't waste their money on a degree. It's click bait basically.
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Old 06-25-2019, 02:03 PM
 
Location: On the Beach
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Heard this same line for at least a decade. Funny thing, every single young person I know who graduates with just a four year degree has landed a career is is successful. Yes, some complain about their debt but I don’t see any who are unemployed or even under employee so I take these stories with a grain of salt.
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Old 06-25-2019, 02:09 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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The unfortunate truth is colleges are selling people on degrees that are totally useless in the marketplace!
Thing is, they had to come up with majors that are easy enough for anyone to get into-and graduate from. How can you maximize revenue if you only offer majors in fields that actually are in demand? There is a ton of greed in the education industry. I'd suggest setting a maximum rate for tuitions for taxpayer-backed loans to leverage some pressure on the industry. $25k a year? Forget it-no taxpayer money for you.

I'm a mechanical engineer and the field has been good to me. But sometimes I wish I'd gotten into something a little more "hands on". Machining would have been good-and a machinist makes about the same hourly wage-and typically isn't salaried, so they get overtime.
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Old 06-25-2019, 02:14 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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The fluff, indoctrination, useless majors are a high area for regrets. Colleges are just as much of a business as anything else. In a store some people buy the useful well priced items while others buy overpriced useless items. A college major is no different.
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