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Old 06-26-2019, 11:14 AM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Originally Posted by Pilot1 View Post
It can be construed that "Drag Queens", "Cross Dressers", and "Trannies" can all be considered sexualized and therefore "adult" themes. We don't need to assault children with sexually, and gender confusing imagery well before they can understand the true ramifications of such.
Can =/= should



a women showing some ankle "can" be sexualized. that doesnt make it the intention of the individual.

Your argument is based on the perception by the individual.

 
Old 06-26-2019, 11:15 AM
 
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It can be construed that "Drag Queens", "Cross Dressers", and "Trannies" can all be considered sexualized and therefore "adult" themes. We don't need to assault children with sexually, and gender confusing imagery well before they can understand the true ramifications of such.
Interesting that nobody will answer the question honestly, although points to the one poster who has been engaging in the discussion in a respectful way.
 
Old 06-26-2019, 11:15 AM
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What is the origin and main message of the fictionalized characters?

Who is the main audience for these fictionalized characters and what venues do they perform at on a regular basis?
You would have to ask them. The point is and always was that your argument is flawed because it is based entirely on perception rather than fact.


some guy dressed in a 16th century gown(going by the Drag Queen story time near me) and a pound of brightly colored make up, isnt in anyway sexual to me.

Last edited by dsjj251; 06-26-2019 at 11:21 AM.. Reason: updated to add context.
 
Old 06-26-2019, 11:23 AM
 
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on and on and on and on and on...........LOL
 
Old 06-26-2019, 11:31 AM
 
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You would have to ask them. The point is and always was that your argument is flawed .
I haven't posed an argument.

The definition of drag queen has not been objectively defined within this context yet.

Where do drag queens perform on a regular basis and who is the targeted audience?

I'll answer since you refuse. Adult venues and adults.

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More on Drag Queen Story Hour, copied and pasted from the website:
https://www.dragqueenstoryhour.org/

"Drag Queen Story Hour (DQSH) is just what it sounds like—drag queens reading stories to children in libraries, schools, and bookstores. DQSH captures the imagination and play of the gender fluidity of childhood and gives kids glamorous, positive, and unabashedly ***** Q U EER role models. In spaces like this, kids are able to see people who defy rigid gender restrictions and imagine a world where people can present as they wish, where dress up is real."

"Through a fun and fabulous literary experience, DQSH celebrates learning and play, encouraging kids to celebrate gender diversity and all kinds of difference, while building confidence in expressing themselves"

"drag is an art form that is rooted in diverse LGBTQ communities, and we support equality, justice, and respect for all people—"

"Lots of people put their baby girls in “Princess in Training” onesies. Is that indoctrination? When kids grow up they can decide for themselves whether they want to be princesses, drag queens, or something else. Let’s start out by giving them options!"

"We’re teaching kids about gender presentation and gender identity"
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So ... are they just people who "like to read to kids"? Or is there something else going on?
 
Old 06-26-2019, 11:37 AM
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I'll answer since you refuse. Adult venues and adults.
Since they are clearly performing for kids in your own context, that isnt true.


Some people who perform drag do perform at adult venues, some dont, some do it for fun, or Instagram, for Youtube, and so on.

Your entire argument is based on a falsehood that you have already stated isnt true or atleast isnt the full story.
 
Old 06-26-2019, 11:39 AM
 
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Since they are clearly performing for kids in your own context, that isnt true.


Some people who perform drag do perform at adult venues, some dont, some do it for fun, or Instagram, for Youtube, and so on.

Your entire argument is based on a falsehood that you have already stated isnt true or atleast isnt the full story.
I suggest you go to the Drag Queen Story Hour website and learn about the organization. I think you'll be surprised.

And no one considers drag queens anything other than adult entertainment. Which is what they are.

http://www.abcbusinessnews.com/2019/...-back-decades/

"Drag queens are adult entertainment. There is no way around this reality. From the make-up to the dress to the personality, a drag queen is built from the ground up as a caricature of a sexual, adult woman.

This is the fun of drag culture for many. Drag queens are associated with sassy, edgy and explicitly blunt humor and sexuality. They are allowed to be over-the-top and aggressively sexualized because they are meant to be exaggerations. A man dressing as a drag queen to read to children is essentially the same as a female adult entertainer teaching a preschool dance class while fully clothed. It just does not work, despite the innocence of the intention or of the children involved."
 
Old 06-26-2019, 11:51 AM
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I suggest you go to the Drag Queen Story Hour website and learn about the organization. I think you'll be surprised.

And no one considers drag queens anything other than adult entertainment. Which is what they are.
Again, you have posted something that is clearly not true and you already know that.

You do however have a right to your opinion that YOU believe it is adult entertainment.
 
Old 06-26-2019, 11:52 AM
 
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Again, you have posted something that is clearly not true and you already know that.

You do however have a right to your opinion that YOU believe it is adult entertainment.
Ask 15 people on the street: Are drag queens adult entertainment? 15 yesses.
 
Old 06-26-2019, 11:57 AM
Status: "everybody getting reported now.." (set 16 days ago)
 
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Ask 15 people on the street: Are drag queens adult entertainment? 15 yesses.
If im on the street, you get atleast one no. Im guessing if you ask those kids being read to, they would say no as well. Im guessing if you ask anyone who thinks critical of the situation and doesnt sexualize everything, you get 15 nos.
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