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Old 06-27-2019, 08:38 AM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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The opinion seems somewhat complex. From what I gather from the syllabus, the Court is allowing the district court's decision to remand the issue to the Commerce Department for further explanation on the reasons for wanting to add the question to the Census.

Opinion: https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinion...8-966_bq7c.pdf
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Old 06-27-2019, 08:40 AM
 
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From Scotusblog:

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The Court says that the secretary's decision to reinstate the citizenship question was reasonable and reasonably explained, "particularly in light of the long history of the citizenship question on the census," but on the other hand it says that it shares "the District Court's conviction that the decision to reinstate a citizenship question cannot be adequately explained in terms of DOJ's request for improved citizenship data to better enforce the" Voting Rights Act. "In these unusual circumstances," the court says, "the District Court was warranted in remanding to the agency, and we affirm that disposition."
This essentially makes it unlikely, but not impossible, that there will be a citizenship question on the 2020 Census.
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Old 06-27-2019, 08:50 AM
 
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This essentially makes it unlikely, but not impossible, that there will be a citizenship question on the 2020 Census.
reuters framed it this way:

https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1144253588505550849

too bad.
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Old 06-27-2019, 08:52 AM
 
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The Court says that the secretary's decision to reinstate the citizenship question was reasonable and reasonably explained, "particularly in light of the long history of the citizenship question on the census," but on the other hand it says that it shares "the District Court's conviction that the decision to reinstate a citizenship question cannot be adequately explained in terms of DOJ's request for improved citizenship data to better enforce the" Voting Rights Act. "In these unusual circumstances," the court says, "the District Court was warranted in remanding to the agency, and we affirm that disposition."


Oh dear! Someone is going to have to interpret this one for trump.
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Old 06-27-2019, 08:55 AM
 
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reuters framed it this way:

https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1144253588505550849

too bad.
Good! I'm happy to note that the SC isn't simply rolling over for Trump, as was the fear.
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Old 06-27-2019, 09:00 AM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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I think it is sad that the SC doesn't think it is important enough to know how many "guests" are staying in our house?

We need to know how many beds to set up and how much food to buy to make and keep everyone happy.



The Dems have been fighting this question and I don't know why. They seem to want a certain segment of our population to come out of "the shadows" and what better way then to be counted but by blocking the question they are basically telling them to stay in hiding.


I wonder if this is all part of the game plan for when we have a Democrat President and they start talking amnesty for the 11 million they admit to or the 21 million that is more likely plus the extra One million that are expected this year alone to keep us all in the fog about just how many are here?
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Old 06-27-2019, 09:05 AM
 
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reuters framed it this way:

https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1144253588505550849

too bad.
Its not as dire for the administration as that Tweet makes it seem.

In the opinion, the Court notes that:

"Relatedly, a court may not set aside an agency’s policymaking decision solely because it might have been influenced by political considerations or prompted by an Administration’s priorities."

On remand, the Commerce Department can essentially give a host of lawful explanations as to why it wants the citizenship question added to the Census, and the district court cannot rule against it because political considerations played a role. The only thing that would seem to have the Commerce Department lose in the end is if the court found some unlawful reason in the Department's rationale for wanting to add the question. And, like it or not, the "smoking gun" memo from the now deceased election attorney isn't that.
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Old 06-27-2019, 09:08 AM
 
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I think it is sad that the SC doesn't think it is important enough to know how many "guests" are staying in our house?

We need to know how many beds to set up and how much food to buy to make and keep everyone happy.
I thought the question was about citizenship not how many in the household, that question is on the census correct?

I didn't follow this one closely as I didn't think it was important either way. I just assumed people would lie since there is no actual enforcement for telling a lie on the census anyway.
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Old 06-27-2019, 09:13 AM
 
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The SC says you can add the question if you have a better reason....
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Old 06-27-2019, 09:26 AM
 
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This could be a pretty big win for the left. SCOTUS basically just punted back down, and it will probably be sent back to SCOTUS again.....eventually.

With SCOTUS out until October, there's a good chance this issue doesn't get a decision by the 2020 Census in April.
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