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Old 06-29-2019, 02:29 PM
 
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"If we opened up and drilled on every single square inch of our land and our shores, we would still find only 3% of the world's oil reserves — 3% for a country that uses 25% of the world's oil."
How Incredibly Wrong You Were! I was going to say that you were nothing more than a Mickey Mouse President That had no clue but that would be an insult to Mickey Mouse!


https://thehill.com/policy/energy-en...arrels-per-day
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Old 06-29-2019, 02:52 PM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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I wonder what else Obama was wrong about? How about the economy roaring along and manufacturing coming back? He said those days were gone and we had better get used to it. How about Black unemployment? Obama seemed content to let "his people" languish as perpetual victims of white society but today unemployment among Black folk is the lowest it has ever been. I hate to think what is going to happen to them when a Democrat President gives amnesty to 20 million+ illegal aliens allowing them to come out of the shadows to seek a regular over the table job. They are not going to be coming for the white collar jobs...



The Best thing that Obama was wrong about was when he told us in a rather cold tone that Trump will never be President...
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Old 06-29-2019, 02:56 PM
 
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good news, maybe Obama will make some more dire predictions which will be wrong, too.
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Old 06-29-2019, 02:58 PM
 
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The Dunning-Kruger effect on this forum is way over the top.
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Old 06-29-2019, 03:18 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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There's nothing wrong with doing things that reduce dependence on energy from source countries that don't have US interests at heart.

However, what's with the defiant pushback against continuing advances in science and technology that will eventually reduce the need to drill fossil fuels in any jurisdiction? Alternative technologies for fuel are not totally ready to handle current and future demand without working out some glitches, but it's a good policy to support continued research and development to find energy sources, and the technology to run them, that are superior to the ones we have now without all the risks.

Do people not remember some massive oil spills that have been in the US and the catastrophic environmental, economic, and tourism consequences? It doesn't take a whole lot of common sense to realize that this method of energy generation has some huge risks and consequences when things go wrong.

There are always those people who want things to stay the same because "we've always done it that way", but I would hope they'd have a little more ethical concern for future generations and for exploring a more innovative and effective of way of doing things. Apparently not.
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Old 06-29-2019, 03:28 PM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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There's nothing wrong with doing things that reduce dependence on energy from source countries that don't have US interests at heart.

However, what's with the defiant pushback against continuing advances in science and technology that will eventually reduce the need to drill fossil fuels in any jurisdiction? Alternative technologies for fuel are not totally ready to handle current and future demand without working out some glitches, but it's a good policy to support continued research and development to find energy sources, and the technology to run them, that are superior to the ones we have now without all the risks.

Do people not remember some massive oil spills that have been in the US and the catastrophic environmental, economic, and tourism consequences? It doesn't take a whole lot of common sense to realize that this method of energy generation has some huge risks and consequences when things go wrong.

You would think that people who want things to stay the same because "we've always done it that way" would have a little more ethical concern for future generations, but apparently not.



Has anyone said that research into renewable energy needs to stop? Ok Trump relaxed the Federal mandate (Obama's idea) that autos made by Domestic companies need to reach so many MPG and emission standards by a certain date but Trump never said they need to stop their research into getting more for less. Trump is a smart guy and he will let the consumer decide the direction of the market. If company X is making a car that gets 50 miles to the gallon and company B is making a similar car that only gets 25 then guess which car people will buy? It is called business.



If you can build a better mouse trap the world will flock to your door. America is all about innovation and Trump has done nothing to shut that down.
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Old 06-29-2019, 03:33 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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The Dunning-Kruger effect on this forum is way over the top.
it is. and sickie is a stunning example.
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Old 06-29-2019, 03:37 PM
 
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Has anyone said that research into renewable energy needs to stop? Ok Trump relaxed the Federal mandate (Obama's idea) that autos made by Domestic companies need to reach so many MPG and emission standards by a certain date but Trump never said they need to stop their research into getting more for less. Trump is a smart guy and he will let the consumer decide the direction of the market. If company X is making a car that gets 50 miles to the gallon and company B is making a similar car that only gets 25 then guess which car people will buy? It is called business.



If you can build a better mouse trap the world will flock to your door. America is all about innovation and Trump has done nothing to shut that down.
Really? So deregulation that has taken us backwards to producing more pollution doesn't count? And wait minute...was he not dead set on reviving coal as if it is the energy wave of the future? But that was likely just bull pucky for his base. And who did he appoint to the EPA when he first took office? Oh yeah...this guy...
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EPA's Scott Pruitt to sign override of Clean Power Plan
https://www.elp.com/articles/2017/10...ower-plan.html

84 environmental rules on the way out under Trump
https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-...t-under-trump/
Tell me...what inspires one to carry water for a self-serving degenerate? And polluted water at that!
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Old 06-29-2019, 03:41 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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Has anyone said that research into renewable energy needs to stop? Ok Trump relaxed the Federal mandate (Obama's idea) that autos made by Domestic companies need to reach so many MPG and emission standards by a certain date but Trump never said they need to stop their research into getting more for less. Trump is a smart guy and he will let the consumer decide the direction of the market. If company X is making a car that gets 50 miles to the gallon and company B is making a similar car that only gets 25 then guess which car people will buy? It is called business.

If you can build a better mouse trap the world will flock to your door. America is all about innovation and Trump has done nothing to shut that down.
I wasn't really referring to Trump or Obama but a certain segment of the population that seems to think being prudent about the environment is for wusses. These are types of people who hostilely mock anybody who wants to explore ways to produce items that use energy more efficiently, while remaining reliable and good products.

One example of that type of defiant anti-environmentalism thinking is illustrated at the link below:

https://www.businessinsider.com/cons...k-smoke-2014-7

That's a very different outlook than someone who is driving a huge truck, which admittedly gets bad gas mileage because they need it for their business purposes or their farm, or some other practical task, or maybe because they like the vehicle but aren't being a trashy jerk about being proud to pollute the environment.

Yes, that movement does skew towards a certain political viewpoint and party affiliation but I was trying to stay away from focusing on the partisan part of the issue.

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Old 06-29-2019, 03:44 PM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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Obama hated Fossil Fuels as he was beholden t the Green Lobby that helped get him elected. He admitted liking that gasoline prices had gone above $4/gallon as it would decrease demand. Such an economic genius, huh?

He only likes fossil fuels when he is cruising on Richard Branson's yacht, or flying in private jets separately from Michelle the linebacker.
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