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Old 07-01-2019, 09:06 AM
 
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I don't necessarily think the service dog was the main issue. I think the couple are a bit of loose cannons, I mean, who implies they have a gun?

https://www.idahostatesman.com/news/...231740633.html

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For someone who says he prefers cats over dogs, Nic Day spends a lot of time with canines.

Atlas, a 1-year-old Akita, is nearly always by Day’s side. A Marine Corps veteran, Day started experiencing symptoms of post-traumatic stress disorder after multiple tours in Iraq.
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Old 07-01-2019, 09:12 AM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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Sounds like my sort of hotel -one that puts all guests ahead of some guests.
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Old 07-01-2019, 09:13 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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A service dog is trained to perform a function, or do a job, that his or her owner can’t perform on their own due to a physical, intellectual, or emotional disability. These dogs may, of course, provide emotional support and comfort, but they are specifically trained to provide assistance beyond soothing benefits.

A support dog is a companion animal (not necessarily a work animal) that provides therapeutic benefits to a person with a medically diagnosed disability. Support animals do not have to be trained for their role, but medical documentation is required in order to receive this designation.

Service dogs receive more legal protections than emotional support dogs and are allowed in just about any and every public space, whereas emotional support dogs do not enjoy the same widespread access.
https://www.rover.com/blog/differenc...d-service-dog/


The sad thing is so many people have fraudulently claimed their pets as "service dogs" to get around rules and laws concerning where pets can be. This has caused a big backlash against people that ACTUALLY need service or emotional support dogs.
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Old 07-01-2019, 09:17 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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No mention of the wife’s disability that requires a service animal.

State laws regarding service vs support are variable.
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Old 07-01-2019, 09:19 AM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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This is why we need to license these animals.

Said license should be free.

Im fine with a veteran having PTSD labeled as needing such an animal.
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Old 07-01-2019, 09:31 AM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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Another example of why the ADA regulations need to be changed so that service dog use can be better regulated. It needs to include microchipping, third party behavior/training evaluation, a letter of disability verification from an MD who has physically seen the person (just like handicap plate), and a license that includes pictures of the animal and the person. Like so many good things based of faith of honesty of the person using the service, abuse has become rampant.

As to this case, the wife more or less threatened violence. She said she was worried he might make a suicide attempt and he had a gun. No, the hotel should not have to continue letting him stay there. The police agreed with the hotel’s concern.
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Old 07-01-2019, 09:32 AM
 
Location: San Diego CA
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Factoids. Both husband and wife had their dogs with them. It was determined that neither animal was a certified service dog. Husband carries a gun and gets upset very easily. If the husband is indeed suffering from PTSD is he under VA health care and if so couldn’t the VA provide him with an actual support animal and other treatment?

If you were a hotel manager responsible for among other things the safety of your guests would this set off alarms regarding possible danger to persons and property? Something does not seem right about this fact pattern. This individual seems like a ticking time bomb who apparently needs proper mental health care.
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Old 07-01-2019, 09:37 AM
 
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If the husband is on meds for his PTSD, he should not have a gun.
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Old 07-01-2019, 10:47 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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My fiance served three tours and he was a former MARSOC, he doesn't suffer from PTSD, nor does he carry a gun around. well, he's the kind of former Marine who can pass for a college professor. He still loves his military life and his weapons, but there is really no need for him to carry them around and we only have 2 guns at home. That's it. For a sharp shooter, you really don't need that many guns (well, unless you are a gun collector. )

This said, my heart goes out to this veteran who suffers from PTSD, it must be very difficult for his entire family.

I think carrying guns around is not helpful to him, he shouldn't be owning a gun in my humble opinion.

In term of the service dog, sigh, there are too many service dogs outside and who really knows what is a service dog, what is not. Maybe all service dogs should be licensed.

he might make a suicide attempt and he had a gun. Sorry to say, but he is no victim. He shouldn't be carrying a gun around, period. The wife should've known better instead of acting like an enabler. yikes.
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Old 07-01-2019, 11:52 AM
 
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The American Disabilities Act indeed does need to revise its policies on service dogs so it could be harder to fraudulently use the "My dog is a service dog" card. At the same time, it would be difficult to do so in a manner that is neither too strict that acts as a hurdle towards those that legitimately need a service dog. Finally, an American Akita is a gorgeous dog but not for everyone.
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