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Old 07-01-2019, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Trump. John Bolton and Tom Cotton your wish came true.

Now What.

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WASHINGTON — Iran has exceeded a key limitation on how much nuclear fuel it can possess under the 2015 international pact curbing its nuclear program, effectively declaring that it would no longer respect an agreement that President Trump abandoned more than a year ago, the International Atomic Energy Agency reported on Monday.
The breach of the limitation, which restricted Iran’s stockpile of low-enriched uranium to about 660 pounds, does not by itself give the country the material to produce a nuclear weapon. But it is the strongest signal yet that Iran is moving to abandon the limits and restore the far larger stockpile that took the United States and five other nations years to persuade Tehran to send abroad
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Old 07-01-2019, 12:31 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Thanks Obama. $150 billion has to go a long ways towards enabling that.
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Old 07-01-2019, 12:33 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Thanks Obama. $150 billion has to go a long ways towards enabling that.
Well no giving them back their money was part of the agreement, this was all on the brain trust that tore up the deal because they can get a better. So what is the end game, where do they go from here.
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Old 07-01-2019, 12:36 PM
 
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Thanks Obama. $150 billion has to go a long ways towards enabling that.
They are sitting on Trillions in Oil, running out of money was never a concern for them. Sanctions that bar spending or purchasing options is the bigger concern. My question is if we pulled out the deal, why are we tracking the parameters for that deal we didn't want?

And what did we expect to happen. That is like leaving the Bank vault open with no security and expecting no one to steal the money.

Still itchy for another Middle East war I see.
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Old 07-01-2019, 12:37 PM
 
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A year after Trump ripped up the deal, Iran broke a condition of the deal.

Hmmmm we will always wonder what if.

And the crowd says '....SEE -- see what -- Iran is not sticking to a deal that Trump ripped up.

Perhaps if the deal had been left in place while Trump negotiated the deal he thought would be better Iran wouldn't be so quick to challenge Trump.

We don't know.
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Old 07-01-2019, 12:39 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Utter incompetence. It's one Trump blunder after another. Crack down on the border crossers and see thousands upon thousands of people claim asylum rather than risk being caught. Quit TPP and stick Americans with billions in higher costs and sagging profits before backing down on tariffs. Quit the Iran accord and watch as Iran builds a nuke free from constraints.
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Old 07-01-2019, 12:57 PM
 
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Iran is a sovereign nation. We pulled out of the deal so we have nothing to say about it now.
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Old 07-01-2019, 01:03 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Trump. John Bolton and Tom Cotton your wish came true.

Now What.
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The breach of the limitation, which restricted Iran’s stockpile of low-enriched uranium to about 660 pounds, does not by itself give the country the material to produce a nuclear weapon.

...is a nothing-burger.

I'm guessing people cannot comprehend the meaning of "dual-reactors."

There are two reactors at Bushwehr.

One reactor is dedicated to power desalinization plants which are energy-intensive. The other will provide electricity for a large region, allowing Iran to shut down diesel and natural gas power plants.

That's a win-win-win.

That puts more oil and natural gas on the global market to keep prices low, reduces CO2 levels and irrigates the Iranian Plateau.

During Glacial Periods, the Iranian Plateau is a Garden of Eden, but during Inter-Glacial Periods its an arid barren waste-land. With irrigation, they can grow crops, be a net-exporter of food, which keeps food prices low and will employ Millions of Iranians reducing their perennial 20% Unemployment Rate.

Even if Iran doesn't sell the oil on the global market, it can refine it into petro-chemical components and sell that, which reduces the prices of pharmaceuticals, and food, and clothing and everything else.

That will serve to expand the Iranian Middle Class and push the country toward democracy.

Of course, that's not what the US wants, it wants a puppet-dictator.
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Old 07-01-2019, 01:23 PM
 
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I'll just note it did not take Iran long to breach the threshold. Not much of deal if the threshold was so quickly exceeded. Very little risked by President Trump. Any imagined safety in the original deal was just that, imaginary.

Not much of a deal at all. The Obama team, John Kerry, the Europeans negotiated a weak deal. Beware the man who call himself a diplomat.
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Old 07-01-2019, 02:01 PM
 
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I'll just note it did not take Iran long to breach the threshold. Not much of deal if the threshold was so quickly exceeded. Very little risked by President Trump. Any imagined safety in the original deal was just that, imaginary.

Not much of a deal at all. The Obama team, John Kerry, the Europeans negotiated a weak deal. Beware the man who call himself a diplomat.
That is one way to look at it. Another is why the heck not. If the biggest player in Nukes opens the door to more enrichment, don't get cold feet. You start cranking it out.

If I was a dictator of a country I want as many nukes as I can get. Nukes puts you on the world stage with only a handful of other countries. Instant prestige, even the President of the USA will visit you
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