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"It Can't Rain All The Time"
(set 29 days ago)
Location: North Pacific
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Originally Posted by Du Ma
Maybe you should ask AOC and her fellow Congressmen why didn’t they approve adequate funding for the crisis at the southern border. Oh wait, it was a fake emergency
Why is it the fault of BP agents if the holding facility are crowded or the equipment is not working?
I trust they know how to pick up a phone and call a plumber?
but to answer you're question, if it was me, I would not want to throw money at a problem that could be solved by processing these people out, by law. do that which Trump won't do --- follow the law. Trump has no intention of following the law on the release of his prisoners ... he wishes to keep them in these camps indefinitely. any time judges declare for Trump to follow the law and that he is in violation of the u.s. constitution, his response is that they have a personal agenda and he won't do it.
"But as they were working, a few things happened to decrease the chance of compromise:
1) Trump revealed plans for a massive roundup of undocumented immigrants in the country, potentially separating even more children from their parents.
2) Lawyers observing the detention centers at the border for a court case broke their lawyerly code of silence and spoke out about one detention center in particular, in Clint, Tex., saying conditions there are “inhumane” and “horrendous.”
Giving the Trump administration money to continue to house migrants at the border was already an icky vote ... "
(under image)" “There’s got to be guard rails around any money so that it’s used for humanitarian relief, and it’s not diverted toward Trump’s deportation machine,” Rep. Joaquin Castro said in an interview."
"Joaquin Castro (born September 16, 1974)[1] is an American Democratic politician who has served in the United States House of Representatives for Texas's 20th congressional district since 2013."
funding bill passed ... so as Trump can in-house more prisoners and never let them go. and people think their government will keep them safe? ha ... it's just not your turn yet.
Status:
"It Can't Rain All The Time"
(set 29 days ago)
Location: North Pacific
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Originally Posted by EastwardBound
It was a rhetorical question, but yes, the Democrats have bet the farm on the growing Hispanic population, and are now surprised it’s not working out as they thought. The plan is to keep them as isolated as possible by discouraging integration.
Interesting since many of them vote republican ... as well as for Trump.
Try again.
I know people do not want to see the people in the detention centers as just as much as a human beings as they themselves are, but they are indeed human beings who have lost their freedom because they came to a country believing they would get protection, but got imprisoned instead.
Kicking people when they are down, is not a good look for America the beautiful, it makes America look ugly instead.
Status:
"It Can't Rain All The Time"
(set 29 days ago)
Location: North Pacific
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Originally Posted by jbgusa
I suppose people who sneak into the U.S. by crossing illegally and/or overstaying a VISA or legitimate crossing are entitled to decent accommodations. But why? Those miserable centers are apparently better than conditions in Honduras or Guatemala.
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Originally Posted by Du Ma
Obviously.
Otherwise they would not pay coyotes thousand of dollars and risk their lives just to get to stay at "concentration camps" in the US
Why Are So Many Guatemalans Migrating to the U.S.?
"Their claim to the U.S. is legitimate, they believe, because they fit the conditions for asylum. They also identify with the U.S. because its government has extensively shaped their daily lives—long before they attempt to cross the U.S.-Mexico border." (click this one; first sentence, read that)
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Originally Posted by Ellis Bell
Interesting since many of them vote republican ... as well as for Trump.
Try again.
I know people do not want to see the people in the detention centers as just as much as a human beings as they themselves are, but they are indeed human beings who have lost their freedom because they came to a country believing they would get protection, but got imprisoned instead.
Kicking people when they are down, is not a good look for America the beautiful, it makes America look ugly instead.
So now we're supposed to clothe, feed, house, provide medical care for and educate tens and tens of thousands streaming across the border?
Or do you propose we do like we used to... let them into the interior of the country with the ** promise ** that they'll actually come back for their asylum hearing..... knowing that a full 80% will NEVER come for their hearing?
If you don't enforce laws, people abuse them. If you are lax on laws, you are helping nobody but the coyotes, people smugglers and child traffickers.
I don't know why it's taking so long for the message to reach Central America: The US is onto their "asylum" game, and is not tolerating it anymore. They need to stop taking advantage of humanitarian spirit.
Stop being so gullible. America didn't become great by being played for suckers by benefits shoppers.
The logic of a brain dead leftist displayed on this board
CBP: Yo, Congress! We need extra funding to deal with 400,000 migrants at southern border this fiscal year. Our facilities are not meant to deal with the number of migrants the size of a medium size city population
Congress/AOC: Manufactured crisis, fake emergency. No money for you!!!
(Fast forward 6 months later)
Congress/AOC: Oh my God! Poor migrants. Why are you so horrible CBP? These poor migrants deserve to be detained in better conditions.
Re-reading the posts, you truly are despicable. Show the bodies ? as a defense in how these are no concentration camps ?
Get history classes, and learn the difference and the way camps "elevated". Gee, no history there, except "we won, haha" ?
Beurk and vomit.
Youve twisted the argument into something altogether different just to call me names and youve accomplished nothing.
It was claimed that detainees had no access to drinking water.
There is zero evidence of that period.
I said if that were true they would be dying so show me the bodies.
Documentation was provided of deaths none of which appeared related to heat or dehydration, the cardiac arrests were invariably older detainees and they were in mostly permanent facilities where its virtually impossible they didnt have drinking water.
Thats where it was left if you have proof of no drinking water bring it.
Its just stupid . Water is cheap and the federal government certainly has the logistic resources to provide plenty of it.
So now we're supposed to clothe, feed, house, provide medical care for and educate tens and tens of thousands streaming across the border?
Or do you propose we do like we used to... let them into the interior of the country with the ** promise ** that they'll actually come back for their asylum hearing..... knowing that a full 80% will NEVER come for their hearing?
If you don't enforce laws, people abuse them. If you are lax on laws, you are helping nobody but the coyotes, people smugglers and child traffickers.
I don't know why it's taking so long for the message to reach Central America: The US is onto their "asylum" game, and is not tolerating it anymore. They need to stop taking advantage of humanitarian spirit.
Stop being so gullible. America didn't become great by being played for suckers by benefits shoppers.
These people haven't lost their freedom either. They are coming for economic opportunity on the backs of the U.S. worker/taxpayer. That is not a reason to claim asylum in our country.
I thought you knew of the lawsuit? Actually there have been several, even during the Obama Administration ... If you want first hand accounts from the children in the centers; those who have spoken to lawyers and given their affidavits ...
If you don't know after all of that just know that America is on the wrong side of history on this situation. Not like America hasn't been on the wrong side before though, right?
Yeah i saw that and explained why death from cardiac arrest meant nothing. If it did the medical profession could eliminate the number 1 cause of death in america simply by prescribing water couldnt they. Oh gee where is your argument now.
As for your updates get back to me with news that a judge has ruled the children are being kept in inhumane conditions and then we will talk about when you will receive the first busload of them at your home.
Its obvious the illegal immigrants and their lawyers will claim anything they think might get them released it seems you dont know that in a court case there are two sides to the story.
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