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Old 07-05-2019, 07:44 AM
 
Location: Boston
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there have always been a sizable portion of losers in our country. Nothing to see here.
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Old 07-05-2019, 07:44 AM
 
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People like that dont care about facts. The reality is that no matter how hard everyone in the country work and study, if the ruling class rig the system to their advantage, then the expected consequences will be increased inequality and more social despair. We see this in countless countries all over the world where the ruling elites get a stranglehold over the economy. They know what they are doing. Its nothing surprising that wage growth is anemic when labor unions are crushed even though corporate media (owned by the super rich) tell us we should be surprised.
It is celebrated in this country when many business organize together and purchase politicians to rig the markets in their favor to the tune of billions a year but when workers try organize together the corporate media, bankers and every business in America threaten holy war and to kill everyone in this country if they do not get their way.
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Old 07-05-2019, 07:49 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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If you don’t want to get “sub-living wages” you better be qualified to do SOME job that most illegal aliens aren’t qualified to do.

I know that may seem harsh, but it’s clear now that that democrats don’t want to do anything about the illegal alien problem. In fact they want to lure more here with all kinds of free stuff.

So at this point, I cant take seriously, any democrat that complains about low wages. If you cant do something that an illegal alien cant do, then you deserve your low wages. That seems to be the response of some democrats on this board, and now it is mine too.
Hear, hear!
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Old 07-05-2019, 07:50 AM
 
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I bet they find a way to pay their cell phone bills.
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Old 07-05-2019, 07:50 AM
 
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Its true. Immigration to America is very low compared to Canada or lots of European countries.

NAFTA was supported by the GOP. Who are you kidding? Bernie Sanders did oppose the agreement vehemently as did lots of labor unions. But you hate labor unions and Bernie Sanders.

Your talking points are epic fails across the board. As long as you bat for the super rich, there will be no change in who holds power. It wont be the typical worker, thats for sure.
During the 80s and 90s, there were many protests by the millions against trade with China and Nafta and Big Business and the Chamber of Commerce smeared their name in the media and brought in the cops to shut them all down.

There is a special place reserved in hell for these people that play their deceptive games in order to make bank.


If there is ever a war with China, we should send every banker, shareholder and CEO including their families that pushed for these trade pacts to the frontlines.
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Old 07-05-2019, 07:57 AM
 
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No matter how many people study and work their butts off, as long as the super rich rig the system to their advantage, there will be no change in inequality and social despair. We see this in East Asian countries as well. Just telling people to study and work harder is indeed a "let them eat cake" argument.
You sound like a poorly programmed socialist bot that defaults back to undefined values when it encounters simple logic. Case in point:

Rigged system = undefined
inequality = undefined
social despair = undefined

My favorite though:

improve yourself = let them eat cake

What a broken record.
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Old 07-05-2019, 08:03 AM
 
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You sound like a poorly programmed socialist bot that defaults back to undefined values when it encounters simple logic. Case in point:

Rigged system = undefined
inequality = undefined
social despair = undefined

My favorite though:

improve yourself = let them eat cake

What a broken record.
It is defined.
Follow the money.
The revolving door and lobbyists.

Whenever these are brought up and asked to support throwing them out, the subject gets changed or the ones bringing it up get attacked.
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Old 07-05-2019, 08:05 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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No matter how many people study and work their butts off, as long as the super rich rig the system to their advantage, there will be no change in inequality and social despair. We see this in East Asian countries as well. Just telling people to study and work harder is indeed a "let them eat cake" argument.
There is no "rigged" system. That's just another excuse made by the ignorant and/or lazy. How do we know? 80% of US millionaires (in net worth... that is, assets minus liabilities) are first-generation wealthy. That wouldn't be possible if the system were "rigged."

11.8 million households in the US have a net worth of $1+ million. 80% of those, 9.44 million, are first-generation wealthy.
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Old 07-05-2019, 08:14 AM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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I bet they find a way to pay their cell phone bills.
There is a class of people who buy what they want and then beg for what they need.
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Old 07-05-2019, 08:29 AM
 
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It is defined.
Follow the money.
The revolving door and lobbyists.

Whenever these are brought up and asked to support throwing them out, the subject gets changed or the ones bringing it up get attacked.
Oh so leftists don't put money into politics in order to influence policy? Please. When have the powerful not influenced the body politic? As long as human beings are running things, self-interest will always be a factor. Lying socialists always flap their jib about returning power to the people, yet bureaucrats seize that power for themselves and their favored people every chance they get.
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