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View Poll Results: Should America continue to honor a Constitution that was written by white men who were slave owners
Yes 159 94.64%
No 8 4.76%
Unsure 1 0.60%
Voters: 168. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-06-2019, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Originally Posted by Pogue Mahone View Post
No women or minorities had any input in our Constitution's conception or development. Should an America where women, descendants of former slaves, and people from cultures all over the world have equal agency remain beholden to words written by white men from a bygone age where those people's voices were not heard or respected?
lmao How about you address whats in the Constitution instead of playing identity politics like an uninformed adolescent?

 
Old 07-06-2019, 02:05 PM
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Location: MA/NH
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Yes. No reason it couldn't be occasionally updated given that people of color and women had exactly zero input.
Our Constitution should be colour blind and gender neutral. What exactly would people of colour and women want changed about it? I suppose, remove all references to "men" and change it to "humans". Although, that sort of minutiae never bothered me and given when it was written, I'd prefer to leave in that terminology.
 
Old 07-06-2019, 02:43 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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Nope. Honestly I never did. Too much information and stuff is out there to get outraged about in all honesty. Trump is good for one every half day.
In 2016, we got to hear this:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNiiFOj2lEc

If you don't want to waste time watching that, then go here:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/lou...cist-in-debate

In 2019, Salon.com wrote an article declaring that the Declaration of Independence is "racist" and "sexist':

https://www.salon.com/2019/07/04/fou...and-prejudice/

And Ayanna Pressley, whose twitter bio states: "City Councilor who ran to be a champion & advocate in Congress. Congresswoman, MA 7th Congressional District" is in full support of said article.

Here is her tweet about the Salon article:

https://twitter.com/AyannaPressley/s...88737923407872

If you look closely in the image below, you can see that Rep. Rashida Tlaib retweeted it in support of the claim that it's "racist" and "sexist"

https://i.imgur.com/ZNBRcL3.jpg

These are Representatives that are serving in our government. They, and anyone else who calls the Declaration of Independence "racist" and "sexist" are traitors and/or have never actually read the Declaration of Independence.
 
Old 07-06-2019, 03:44 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Nobody is trying to destroy the Constitution.
The writers left it up to interpretation as we have evolved as a nation.
The issues we face today are not "trivial" compared to what life was like back when they wrote it.

I'm pretty sure when the framers thought of the 2A they were more concerned about a unarmed populace that couldn't defend itself against Britain versus today's some gun nut who shot a machine gun out of Las Vegas hotel room killing 50 people as if that was his Constitutional right.
Your party is trying to destroy the Constitution and our rights as it gets in their way of confiscating our property and fully subjugating us.
 
Old 07-06-2019, 03:51 PM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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Here is the obvious problem.


Section 4 -*Republican Government. The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a*Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.

This best of ideas is naturally against other forms of government like socialism, communism.

It was the Republicans fighting slavery, and democratic party was established to fight the ideas of freedom, how strange is it that a party created out of racial tensions would soon get all the minorities?

Everything gets so twisted, so fast.
 
Old 07-06-2019, 04:46 PM
 
Location: Japan
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Originally Posted by Pogue Mahone View Post
Seven pages of people mostly affirming their respect and support for the Constitution is not a thread fail for the OP, I can assure you of that.
Nine pages of people mostly not understanding what should be obvious, even after it is pointed out to them... kind of a fail for humanity.
 
Old 07-06-2019, 04:48 PM
 
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Either the Constitution is a valid framework or it isn't. The identity of its authors doesn't make it any more or less valid, unless liberals want to judge somebody's work by the pigment of their skin.
 
Old 07-06-2019, 04:53 PM
 
Location: Japan
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Either the Constitution is a valid framework or it isn't. The identity of its authors doesn't make it any more or less valid, unless liberals want to judge somebody's work by the pigment of their skin.
...just the kind of cold dead white male Enlightenment-era rationality that produced the Constitution and denies us our voices.
 
Old 07-06-2019, 05:12 PM
 
Location: NNJ
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I'm in the yes crowd. The constitution has been a good guideline for 229 years. The problem isn't the constitution, the problem is presidents that don't respect co-equal branches of government and try to usurp it's power. Despot wanna be's need not apply. Nor should president's who have no respect for the rule of law. White men who were slave owners? A different time, a different mentality. It doesn't mean they didn't come up with a good plan for a new country. Trying to spin that into something else is just hyperbolic nonsense.
and still good for another 229+ years...

There is nothing wrong with the Constitution.. I think it is brilliant.

However, I do agree that the Constitution is just a piece of paper and it is up to people to interpret it, amend it, and honor it. No piece of paper will endure, no matter who wrote it, if those in power don't honor it.

Part of the reason why I would refuse to vote for a president or any politician into office who doesn't demonstrate a firm understanding of the Constitution and our system of governing. Even one that presents a platform that I agree with, I won't support them. How many here can make that claim?
 
Old 07-06-2019, 05:14 PM
 
Location: Posting from my space yacht.
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Nine pages of people mostly not understanding what should be obvious, even after it is pointed out to them... kind of a fail for humanity.
LOL yeah I've noticed.
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