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Who cares? Live and let live. Whats it bother you? Do you need outrage in your life?
I agree, but that’s not the sentiment you just expressed when you identified with the position that being a Christian was essential to being an American.
I don’t go around spending my day trying to preach non-religion to Christians.
I don’t want there to be any religious test for or against to be considered a full member of American society. Religious belief is personal and should not matter too much in public affairs.
A generic "creator" or "nature's God" is very different from the militant fundamentalist God of hate and fear that Republicans want to force down all Americans' throats at gunpoint. That defense doesn't hold water.
It gives people who believe as you suggest, the freedom to be full of themselves and people like us the freedom to ignore them.
The key word in the First Amendment is "Congress." The amendment never meant to infringe upon the right of states to sanction religions/create state religions, etc. That only came about via the incorporation principle of the 14th Amendment, which was passed nearly 80 years after the original ratification. And there is a growing belief among legal conservatives that the Amendment's verbiage on freedom of religion should not be incorporated against the states.
In my view Democrats have not assumed that, it’s more people on the right that have assumed that, and I think that’s one of the reasons they are so hostile to fixing our immigration issues in a reasonable way.
I disagree with you.
americans that respect the laws are concerned about illegal immigration, sanctuary cities, politicians that thwart the laws and ICE, including many democrats on this forum.
The key word in the First Amendment is "Congress." The amendment never meant to infringe upon the right of states to sanction religions/create state religions, etc. That only came about via the incorporation principle of the 14th Amendment, which was passed nearly 80 years after the original ratification. And there is a growing belief among legal conservatives that the Amendment's verbiage on freedom of religion should not be incorporated against the states.
What a load of baloney.
States are not permitted to set up or endorse religions. Never going to be allowed.
This doesn't surprise me. Probably about 3/4 of Trump's base believes that being a born-again evangelical Christian is part of American identity. Also saddening is they are currently the dominant political and cultural force in this country. That's why we are currently seeing such an effort to dehumanize Americans who aren't white, straight, or Christian enough. When you no longer look at your neighbors as your neighbors or even human, it becomes far easier to "do something" about them.
America today is the culmination of what Jerry Falwell and the Moral Majority started back in the 1980s. Nothing but hate and cruelty against those who don't check of all the boxes of what it means to be a 'real' American.
That's about 3/4 of Trump's base. It's a bigger deal than you realize.
These comments are a joke. You all are the fools that are "dehumanizing" your own dang crazy selves.
My husband is from a heavily "Catholic" part of NYC, but he says the majority of them were only "palm and ash" Christians. They would proclaim to be Catholic and do the showy festivities once or twice a year, but never actually go to church, have heaps of casual sex, and couldn't even recite a Hail Mary from memory if pop-quizzed.
I live in Texas, but I don't happen to be from Texas. My hometown is a very affluent SF Bay Area suburb. One side of my family is full of upper crust WASPs who probably have more Jewish friends than those affiliated with any other religion, and the other side is full of well educated, middle to upper middle class, but hard drinking and chain smoking Irish Catholics. As a kid, until my parents divorce, I attended our local Catholic church (my Catholic parent was the one who moved to another city). Some of my fellow parishioners at that time referred to people like your husband described, as well as others, as 'Cafeteria Catholics'.
Yes there are "Christians of all sorts". The difference between sects can be vast. But they all consider themselves Christian. And the Republican party is heavily influenced by the fundamentalists.
That is only partly true; a Christian is a Christian and there is no such thing as a Christian or all sorts. Yes, just like the Jewish faith and many other faiths there are branches of Christianity and different denominations but we all still Christians. Do you ever approach a Christian and ask him or her, what sort of a Christian are you? If you did that person would probably just stare at you. A Christian is a person who believes in God.
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